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#1 PerRock

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Posted 16 May 2018 - 11:53 AM

the UK government announced that they will be (re)taking over the ECML franchise from Virgin Trains at the end of June. The new service will be called the 
London and North Eastern Railway, after the historic railway of the same name.
 
BBC Article:
http://www.bbc.com/n...siness-44142258

Rail services on the East Coast Main Line are being brought back under government control, following the failure of the current franchise.
Operators Stagecoach and Virgin Trains will hand over control from 24 June.
The Department for Transport will run the service until...


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Posted 16 May 2018 - 12:27 PM

Ironically, The original LNER (roughly what is ECML today plus all its branches and Scottish east side) was one of the big four private railways companies formed after the First World War by consolidation in the 1921 Railway Act! It was the second largest after LMS (roughly what is the WCML plus all its branches and Scottish west side)

 

Anyway, here is the new website of LNER....

 

http://www.lnerailway.co.uk/


Edited by jis, 16 May 2018 - 01:35 PM.


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Posted 16 May 2018 - 04:20 PM

I find it astonishing that companies like Virgin can cream off the profits quite happily, but then just abandon their contracts without penalty when it suits them. Strange "contracts" indeed...

 

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Posted 16 May 2018 - 05:11 PM

I find it astonishing that companies like Virgin can cream off the profits quite happily, but then just abandon their contracts without penalty when it suits them. Strange "contracts" indeed...
 
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It is actually way more complicated than that. I suggest you research the matter a little from Modern Railway or even Rail, and you will see how so.

Yes the contracts are strange, but that is partly to make them politically palatable. So the government and Rail Regulators are at least as much at fault as the franchisees.

It is a mess.

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Posted 16 May 2018 - 06:00 PM

I thought the East Coast Main Line was one of prime franchises, offering some of the most profitable services. Seems strange that the private operators are giving it up. 



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Posted 17 May 2018 - 03:38 AM

Ironically, The original LNER (roughly what is ECML today plus all its branches and Scottish east side) was one of the big four private railways companies formed after the First World War by consolidation in the 1921 Railway Act! It was the second largest after LMS (roughly what is the WCML plus all its branches and Scottish west side)

 

Anyway, here is the new website of LNER....

 

http://www.lnerailway.co.uk/

 

The big four companies were in poor financial health, both due to incipient competition from the roads and more importantly to general poor state of repair caused by WW2. The government at the time saw nationalization as the way out of this problem.

 

LNER management however had a different proposal and petitioned the government to consider a franchise system under which the government would buy the tracks and the big four companies would be able to compete for franchises to run services. Basically they wanted the system that exists in the UK today.

 

The government would hear nothing of it. This was the same government that introduced free healthcare, nationalized a whole bunch of industries and introduced other Scandinavian style soft socialist policies and so weren't open to mixed private / pulic models for running public services. But it is interesting to think that if things had turned out differently, history might have taken a wholly different course, with consequences that we can only guess, maybe positive, maybe negative.



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Posted 17 May 2018 - 03:54 AM

Ironically, The original LNER (roughly what is ECML today plus all its branches and Scottish east side) was one of the big four private railways companies formed after the First World War by consolidation in the 1921 Railway Act! It was the second largest after LMS (roughly what is the WCML plus all its branches and Scottish west side)

 

Anyway, here is the new website of LNER....

 

http://www.lnerailway.co.uk/

 

The LNER had some lines in Scotland, for example Edinburgh to Aberdeen, but the LMS was much bigger in Scotland.

 

On the other jand, the LNER had, for example, basically most of the lines in places like East Anglia and a considerable commuter traffic into London. They even ran lines that are now part of London's underground.

 

Besides the well known terminus at Kings Cross, the LNER also had other London terminii, including Marylebone.

 

There were also many secondary lines and branches that no longer exist.



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Posted 17 May 2018 - 10:06 AM

This is apparently an interim arrangement pending something else, which has not been specified at present.

 

http://www.railwayga...-franchise.html



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Posted 18 May 2018 - 12:22 PM

Just in case you though it was easy to operate any of the franchises ....

 

 

Kings Cross is the London station at the south end of the ECML.






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