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#21 Thirdrail7

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Posted 09 May 2018 - 03:37 AM

Quite of a few of the stations that are losing their staffs are under review for train side, baggage lite service.


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Posted 09 May 2018 - 09:18 AM

Any details of what "Baggage Lite" would involve surface yet?



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Posted 09 May 2018 - 11:54 AM

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Posted 09 May 2018 - 12:00 PM

Quite of a few of the stations that are losing their staffs are under review for train side, baggage lite service.


Good.

It's still absurd for *Cincy* to lose staffing. This is not some small town. The only reason it has low ridership is the damn three-a-week nonsense; get the Cardinal daily and watch it boom.
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Posted 11 May 2018 - 11:39 PM

I remember when I was very briefly in Elkhart, IN earlier this year and walked around its downtown, there was a note that the station house is unlocked during hours the station has Amtrak trains arriving and leaving that station. Which are Capitol Limited(Chicago-DC), and Lake Shore Limited(Chicago-Boston-NYC). So I get the sense that this station was a volunteer station where a caretaker opens up and closes that station, during hours Amtrak trains serve Elkhart. Station looked historic, and in nice shape btw.



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Posted 12 May 2018 - 09:03 AM

Quite of a few of the stations that are losing their staffs are under review for train side, baggage lite service.

 

Would this be in addition to eliminating existing baggage lite service? Fort Madison (FMD) has had track side baggage service for several years on weekends when it is not staffed.  When I went to book FMD to LMY May 19 (a Saturday), it said no baggage.

 

So why didn't they do this review before eliminating the service?



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Posted 12 May 2018 - 09:29 AM

 

Quite of a few of the stations that are losing their staffs are under review for train side, baggage lite service.

 

Would this be in addition to eliminating existing baggage lite service? Fort Madison (FMD) has had track side baggage service for several years on weekends when it is not staffed.  When I went to book FMD to LMY May 19 (a Saturday), it said no baggage.

 

So why didn't they do this review before eliminating the service?

 

'Cause they didn't think it would make sense for that station? 


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Posted 12 May 2018 - 09:42 AM

 

Would this be in addition to eliminating existing baggage lite service? Fort Madison (FMD) has had track side baggage service for several years on weekends when it is not staffed.  When I went to book FMD to LMY May 19 (a Saturday), it said no baggage.

 

So why didn't they do this review before eliminating the service?

 

 

 

In FMD's case, maybe they did do the review prior to eliminating the service. Maybe they looked at the current operation and decided it was no longer worth it and targeted it for elimination. The same goes for GRV. After watching baggage lite in action for a few months, they cancelled it.

 

As for the rest of the stations under consideration, I personally(please note the use of the word "personally") believe it won't occur. The problem is there is little "hard" revenue appearing from the checked bags and there are quite a few top people that question the wisdom of even having an operational baggage car fleet, wondering aloud if it would be better to treat them like the HHP-8s (if you catch my drift.) I don't think that will happen, but the reality of the situation is it largely irrelevant if baggage lite is available or will become available.  Staffing costs and costs (particularly on the LD service line network) must be cut...and that means now. So, goodbye staff and you guys can figure if baggage lite will work on your own time.

 

Revenue trumps ridership!!!!!!


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Posted 12 May 2018 - 10:39 AM

An article on Mattoon, IL losing its ticket staff ... about 30 years ago.

 

https://csanders429....ices-will-fail/


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Posted 15 May 2018 - 08:57 AM

Texarkana, TX will begin limited train-side checked baggage and bike service today. 



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Posted 15 May 2018 - 08:59 AM

Texarkana, TX will begin limited train-side checked baggage and bike service today. 

Who is gonna do it since the Station is becoming unstaffed, the Conductors???
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Posted 15 May 2018 - 09:24 AM

Maybe they'll start hiring baggage car attendants. I'm kind of joking but kind of not.  :P


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Posted 15 May 2018 - 08:57 PM

 

Who is gonna do it since the Station is becoming unstaffed, the Conductors???

 

 

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Posted 15 May 2018 - 11:32 PM

I take it as a positive development. Once it's established that passengers are as capable of handing up bikes and baggage as Amtrak employees, there's no reason not to take bikes and baggage at every station.

 

Want to avoid double spotting? Accept the bags and bikes into the lower level of a coach – where they put "carry on" bags anyway – and transfer to a baggage car later, at a station where there's an employee, likely with a motorised cart.

 

Too much work or too much dwell time required? Start charging $20 per bag per segment, as with bikes.


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Posted 16 May 2018 - 04:35 PM


Too much work or too much dwell time required? Start charging $20 per bag per segment, as with bikes.

 

 

Please don't give them any ideas or you'll have to pay for air conditioning on the train!


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Posted 16 May 2018 - 04:39 PM

 


Too much work or too much dwell time required? Start charging $20 per bag per segment, as with bikes.

 

 

Please don't give them any ideas or you'll have to pay for air conditioning on the train!

 

You shouldn't have said that! They're now charging $1 per degree per minute!


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