Jump to content




Help Support AmtrakTrains.com by donating using the link above or becoming a Supporting Member.

Photo

Was pre Katrina Sunset Limited the only train to go cross country?


  • Please log in to reply
42 replies to this topic

#41 jis

jis

    Engineer

  • Gathering Team Member
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 22,146 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Space Coast, Florida, Area code 3-2-1
  • Interests:Trains, Planes and Travel

Posted 12 April 2018 - 08:30 AM

 

 

And the SL ran from east to west from the Atlantic Ocean to the Pacific Ocean — the Panama Railway does the opposite.


Sent from my iPhone using Amtrak Forum

What? Are you serious?

Yes, the Atlantic Ocean entrance to the Panama Canal passageway is WEST of the Pacific Ocean entrance to the Panama Canal passageway. One of those quirks of geography that my junior high school geography teacher 55 years ago would mention in all of his classes at the start of the school year.


Sent from my iPhone using Amtrak Forum

 

Yeah, once I spent enough time deciphering your enigmatically phrased ambiguous statement I realized what you were trying to say. :P



#42 Rover

Rover

    OBS Chief

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPip
  • 261 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:N. Texas

Posted 14 April 2018 - 12:29 PM

Pre-Amtrak, I thought most NYC-California pas train traffic was routed through Chicago and not the Southern route.


I've ridden: ~ The Empire Builder 1981 ~ The Coast Starlight 1981 ~ The Texas Eagle ~ The Sunset Limited ~
Books: ~ Time-Life - The Old West ~ The Railroaders * Rail Ventures - 4th Edition

 

I think it is absolute mythology that there's any national system that is profitable. And I think the naysayers just have to get over it. ~ Amtrak President Alex Kummant ~ June 2008

 


#43 Seaboard92

Seaboard92

    Engineer

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 2,149 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:South Carolina
  • Interests:-Amtrak
    -New York Central
    -Seaboard Airline
    -Scriptwriting

Posted 14 April 2018 - 02:02 PM

Pre-Amtrak, I thought most NYC-California pas train traffic was routed through Chicago and not the Southern route.


Pre Amtrak there were a handful of gateways to the west. Chicago being the main one between the eastern trunk roads and the grangers. It should be noted only two of the Chicago roads actually reached the pacific namely the Santa Fe and Milwaukee Road.

The secondary gateway was St. Louis which used to service the New York Central, Pennsylvania Railroad, Baltimore&Ohio, Southern Railway, Wabash, Nickel Plate Road, Illinois Central, Louisville&Nashville, Gulf Mobile & Ohio, Rock Island, Missouri Pacific, Frisco, Saint Louis and San Francisco (cotton belt), Chicago and Eastern Illinois, Missouri Kansas Texas, and probably some I've forgotten. At its peak St Louis Union Station was over forty tracks and the busiest train station in the world.

Then you have New Orleans as a gateway back then which had the Louisville and Nashville, Kansas City Southern, Southern Railway, Southern Pacific, Gulf Mobile and Ohio, Illinois Central, and a few others.

The other western gateway was Minneapolis Saint Paul between the western roads and the grangers. At one time services by the Milwaukee Road, Chicago and Northwestern, Chicago and Great Western, Soo Line, Rock Island, Burlington, Great Northern, Northern Pacific, and I think that's it.

And the smallest of the gateways was Memphis of whom I forget every railroad that served it. But I know Southern Railway, Rock Island, Illinois Central, Gulf Mobile and Ohio, Louisville and Nashville, and maybe a handful of others. But like I said a very small hub.

A more eastern Midwest gateway was Cincinnati.
View my pictures at http://trainboy1.rrpicturearchives.net
Amtrak Routes I've riden: Silver Star(NYP-ORL), Silver Meteor(KIS-NYP),Carolinian(CLT-NWK), Palmetto (FLO-NYP), Acela(WAS-NYP), NE Regional(WBG-RVR), Pacific Surfliner(SAN-OSD), Piedmont(CLT-SAL), Crescent(NYP-CLT), Cardinal (WAS-CHI), Capitol Limited (CHI-WAS), Cascade (PDX-SEA)
Steam Engines I've worked behind: Norfolk & Western No. 611; Nickel Plate Road No. 765; Southern Pacific No. 4449
 




0 user(s) are reading this topic

0 members, 0 guests, 0 anonymous users