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Posted 05 March 2018 - 08:53 PM

New to train travel and Amtrak Guest Rewards and trying to figure both of them out. Just received my first statement from the Amtrak guest rewards MasterCard I'm still trying to figure out tier qualifying points as opposed to other points and how all of this will work together. This is from the reward summary on the last page of my statement.
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Are the Base Purchase Points same as Tier Qualifying Pts?.. And the Bonus Promotional Points what I would redeem for travel?.. Really kind of confused.



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Posted 05 March 2018 - 09:16 PM

Tier Qualifying Points are earned by Amtrak travel (and by > $5,000 in spending if you have the paid card).

 

The base points are computed on your monthly spending.  The total amount of points may be redeemed for travel.  Log into your AGR account on Amtrak website and you will see your cumulative amount of points.


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Posted 05 March 2018 - 09:38 PM

I logged into my AGR website and shows my mrmber number but still shows 0 points. Do I have to do something to tie my member number to my Amtrak MasterCard?

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Posted 06 March 2018 - 12:01 AM

If you did not furnish your AGR number when you obtained the card, you should call AGR and have the your card linked to your AGR member number. If you did, the Bank of America MC points usually post to your AGR account within a couple days after your received the on line bill.  Note, none of your credit card points are "tier" points. Basically, the base points are actually $$ charged to the car that month and the bonus points are just that. If you have the fee card offering 3 points per dollar charged then one point will be the base points and the other 2x points will be bonus points and that is how they post to AGR. If that's your AGR number on the report you posted then your card is already identified to your member number and should be posted in the list of "transactions" on your AGR. Nothing will post to your tier credits from your credit card unless you charge $5,000 or more in a AGR member year.


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Posted 06 March 2018 - 02:31 PM

Thanks a million guys.. that helps. Seems I get 1000 TQPs at $5000 and two payments so far add $4967.. guess be next month till any TCPs show up.
Also about to pay for long train trip with 6 nights sleeper, hotels at stops, and Cruise to Alaska so that should boost my TQP's to select or whatever. The part how train travel builds TQPs I don't see anything that explains that.



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Posted 06 March 2018 - 02:38 PM

Are TQPs for travel based on how much you pay for the Amtrak portion of the trip? Would any of my cruise payment build TQPs?
I know these are probably dumb questions but right now that's where I am.

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Posted 06 March 2018 - 02:56 PM

Are TQPs for travel based on how much you pay for the Amtrak portion of the trip? Would any of my cruise payment build TQPs?
I know these are probably dumb questions but right now that's where I am.

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TQP's are from paid Amtrak travel and those earned from $5000 spends on the credit card. TQP's earned from the credit card are NOT redeemable for travel; they only affect your AGR status (Select, Select Plus, etc.) along with TQP's earned from Amtrak travel.

 

My AGR points earnings are primarily from credit card and shopping portal use rather than from Amtrak travel. My current Select Plus status is from a combination of TQP's earned from Amtrak travel and credit card usage earning TQP's.


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John...

29,076 miles on the Coast Starlight, Sunset Limited, Texas Eagle, Southwest Chief, Empire Builder, California Zephyr and Capitol Limited.

5540 miles booked for this fall on the Sunset Limited, City of New Orleans, Illini/Saluki, Southwest Chief.

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Posted 06 March 2018 - 03:58 PM

Your AGR points for travel only post after you actually travel and not when you pay for the travel.  Now it is my understanding you earn 2x cost you pay for the trip.  So for a $100 ticket you will earn 200 AGR tier points which also add to your total AGR points available to redeem for future travel.



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Posted 06 March 2018 - 04:17 PM

Here is a link to frequently asked questions:

 

https://amtrakguestrewards.com/faqs

 

The first question pertains to Tier Qualifying Points


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Posted 07 March 2018 - 06:37 AM

Using round numbers for ease. I am about to pay to Amtrak World Card....
$7000 - Travel Agent booked through Amtrak and includes 6 nights sleeper car and 5 nights hotels. Earns 3pts per $1spent (2 bonus pts + 1 base pt)
$3000 - Travel Agent booked through Princess Cruise. Earns 2pts per $1 spent (1bonus + 1 base pt)
If I understand correctly the $7000 @ 2pts per $1 Amtrak travel earns 14,000 TQPs.. and total spending of $10,000 would earn me 2000 additional TQPs for total of 12,000 TQPs.

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Posted 07 March 2018 - 06:40 AM

And I do appreciate everybody's time and patience. Spent a lot of time in the last several days reading and researching trying to understand the program

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Posted 07 March 2018 - 12:28 PM

Did you pay the travel agent, or did you pay Amtrak directly with your card?
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Posted 07 March 2018 - 07:22 PM

You know I did pay the deposit with thetravel agent but he was on the phone with Amtrak at the time so I'm not sure how that was processed.

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Posted 07 March 2018 - 07:26 PM

But that's a good point. The end user agreement for the world card shows travel agencies get paid the same as other travel companies such as cruises and Airlines so guess I would lose a point.

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Posted 07 March 2018 - 08:36 PM

.... and the TQPs may not be credited to you after your trips if the tickets were considered purchased by the travel agency and not you.  You should, at the very least, make sure your Amtrak reservations contain your AGR number and follow up after traveling.


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Posted 07 March 2018 - 08:43 PM

My experience is that the travel agent may not give your AGR number to Amtrak. I called Amtrak and gave them the number. I had to do the same with the hotels.


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Posted 07 March 2018 - 08:44 PM

We've only paid the initial deposit so far and the travel agent did give the Amtrak representative our AGR# so hopefully good.

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Posted 07 March 2018 - 08:46 PM

My experience is that the travel agent may not give your AGR number to Amtrak. I called Amtrak and gave them the number. I had to do the same with the hotels.


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The travel agent asked for our AGR number while he was on the phone with Amtrak so I know they were given the number.

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Posted 07 March 2018 - 09:37 PM

 

My experience is that the travel agent may not give your AGR number to Amtrak. I called Amtrak and gave them the number. I had to do the same with the hotels.


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The travel agent asked for our AGR number while he was on the phone with Amtrak so I know they were given the number.

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Well, you know you gave your AGR number to the travel agent but, do you know (for sure) it got passed to Amtrak? BTW, you can call Amtrak and have the number(s) added to your reservations, even after the trip if within a short time period. I don't use a TA for Amtrak so I have no firsthand experience with how that is handled.


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29,076 miles on the Coast Starlight, Sunset Limited, Texas Eagle, Southwest Chief, Empire Builder, California Zephyr and Capitol Limited.

5540 miles booked for this fall on the Sunset Limited, City of New Orleans, Illini/Saluki, Southwest Chief.

More miles on the Pacific Surfliner, Metrolink, White Pass and Yukon Route, Grand Canyon Railway, Napa Valley Wine Train, Fillmore and Western and private railcars with LARail.com

Photos: http://www.flickr.co...rensicpic/sets/<p> 


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Posted 07 March 2018 - 09:48 PM

Wife and I in his office when he gave Amtrak the AGR# so that should be good. I will call Rewards tomorrow to ask about all this.

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