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Acela 2150 decouples at 125mph (2/6/18)


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#41 Dutchrailnut

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Posted 09 February 2018 - 01:47 PM

they always install from bottom, there happens to be entire railcar on top of that spring pack.



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Posted 09 February 2018 - 02:04 PM

The FRA has unsurprisingly since said that the Railway Age article is inaccurate.

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Posted 09 February 2018 - 02:19 PM

Paywall, can we get a "fair use" quote?
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Posted 09 February 2018 - 02:23 PM

Oh I thought they gave you the first paragraph, which is the relevant part.
 

A Federal Railroad Administration spokeswoman says information in a Railway Age article on the separation of an Amtrak Acela Express train on Feb. 5 is inaccurate, based a preliminary report that was not intended for public release.


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Posted 09 February 2018 - 02:25 PM

From the Trains website - fair use quote:

 


WASHINGTON — A Federal Railroad Administration spokeswoman says information in a Railway Age article on the separation of an Amtrak Acela Express train on Feb. 5 is inaccurate, based a preliminary report that was not intended for public release.

The report, which Railway Age published Feb. 8, indicates that a drawbar pin on an Acela coach dropped out of place, which led to the separation of Acela Express No. 2150 near Havre de Grace, Md., in the early hours of Feb. 5.

 

Here is how Railway Age has walked itself back from their original claim of authenticity etc.:

 

http://www.railwayag...html?channel=54



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Posted 09 February 2018 - 02:35 PM

The Wayback Machine grabbed the original version of the Railway Age article, which said that "The Federal Railroad Administration has issued preliminary findings..." instead of "Railway Age has obtained an internal Federal Railroad Administration narrative..."  Certainly changes how credibly one takes their article.


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Posted 09 February 2018 - 02:35 PM

Thanks - it will be fascinating to see what the final word is.
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Posted 09 February 2018 - 11:39 PM

Oh so you do use the bathroom. I thought they made you hold it all day.

The Acela goes so fast that it's not an issue.
 
Unless, of course, you're as old as I am.
Or if you're working on the equipment for 17 hours

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Posted 10 February 2018 - 01:30 PM

Hello all.

 

First, there was no coupler, so use of the word "couple" is a bit questionable. The Acela cars are connected by permanent drawbars that are secured with pins. Those pins are supposed to be installed or removed in a shop. Normally, Acela cars cannot be separated on the road. One of those pins dislodged, allowing the drawbar to come loose. I have no idea how this could have happened, and I am sure some very serious questions are being asked'

 

The separation of a permanent drawbar should never EVER happen.  The investigation is going to head for the maintenance shops or the materials order.

 

If it turns out to be Bombardier's fault, I'm not even sure they have any money left to pay damages.


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Posted 10 February 2018 - 03:14 PM

following picture proves formerOBS wrong , they do have couplers, just not the standard AAR type. 

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Posted 10 February 2018 - 03:42 PM

You posted that picture yesterday.
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Posted 10 February 2018 - 08:59 PM

your right, but somehow a certain poster still said there was no couplers



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Posted 10 February 2018 - 11:23 PM

your right, but somehow a certain poster still said there was no couplers

And the point of proving someone wrong? That wasn't the point of his post...

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Posted 10 February 2018 - 11:30 PM

Also, Jaap posted it for the first time after FormerOBS's post, so I'm not sure what value there is in coming back and making the same pointless post a second time.
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Posted 11 February 2018 - 01:48 AM

And the point of proving someone wrong? That wasn't the point of his post...

 

 

 

What's wrong with you, Triley??!  :giggle:   

 

People prove each other wrong on here all the time whether they are or not.  It's a rule. 

And give reprimands for whining, go on political rants, derail threads (I'm especially good at that), fight tipping wars, etc. etc.  :P 

 

But I can't seem to stay away for more than a few months at a time.  It's addictive. 

 

Has anyone heard from June the Coach Rider?  I miss her.  Also, what happened to the guy who loves the buses? 



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Posted 11 February 2018 - 11:31 AM

The involved set #6(2031/2030) was released and has already moved to Boston.

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Posted 11 February 2018 - 10:38 PM

Moderator note: Please keep the conversation on-topic to the decoupling. Off-topic posts have and will continue to be hidden.

 

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Posted 12 February 2018 - 10:33 AM

So what it boils down to is unconscious uncoupling?


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Posted 12 February 2018 - 10:36 AM

And for those throwing a hissyfit about "uncoupling" - "detachment"? :P



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Posted 26 February 2018 - 07:43 PM

What’s both funny and sad about this is the timing. This is one of MANY Amtrak incidents in such a short timespan: Silver Star; Cascades 501, this. Whether they’re Amtrak’s fault or not, these incidents are contributing to decreased funding and a poor public opinion of Amtrak.


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