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Acela 2150 decouples at 125mph (2/6/18)


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#1 jamess

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Posted 06 February 2018 - 12:54 PM

A high-speed Amtrak train bound for Penn Station broke apart as it was cruising through Maryland on Tuesday, sources told The Post.

The 2150 Acela was traveling from Washington D.C. to the Big Apple when the incident happened at about 11:20 a.m. The train was traveling at about 125 mph, according to the source.

“Someone could have been walking through the train when that happened and fell to their death,” said the source.

 

 

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Posted 06 February 2018 - 01:26 PM

This will be an interesting investigation. Materials fatigue?
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Posted 06 February 2018 - 01:30 PM

I believe this is a more accurate/updated quote from the article

 

 

The 2150 Acela was traveling from Washington D.C. to the Big Apple when the incident happened at about 6:30 a.m. The train was traveling at about 125 mph, according to the source.

“Someone could have been walking through the train when that happened and fell to their death,” said the source.


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Posted 06 February 2018 - 01:57 PM

Why would anyone be walking between the locomotive and the coaches at speed?

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Posted 06 February 2018 - 02:02 PM

Why would anyone be walking between the locomotive and the coaches at speed?

Huh?  Can't people walk throughout the train if they want to?

 

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Posted 06 February 2018 - 02:10 PM

Why would anyone be walking between the locomotive and the coaches at speed?

Huh?  Can't people walk throughout the train if they want to?
 
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The derailment happened between the locomotive and the first coach. Usually they keep that door locked. I suppose PennyK's hypothetical could be if the decoupling happened anywhere else in the train. But in this case it didn't. Was between the loco and first coach.

That picture makes one wonder if the train was recently in the shop and the coupling pin was incorrectly installed, forgotten, or if it hadn't been recently serviced, fatigued. If the last, then all trains need to stop now and be inspected.

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Posted 06 February 2018 - 02:16 PM

The article says between two cars... The news may be wrong but I don't see any other source saying it was between the locomotive and a coach.

What kept the train connected at 125?


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Posted 06 February 2018 - 02:29 PM

Another article says it was between the first class car and the quiet car:

 

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Posted 06 February 2018 - 02:33 PM

 

 

Why would anyone be walking between the locomotive and the coaches at speed?

Huh?  Can't people walk throughout the train if they want to?
 
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The derailment happened between the locomotive and the first coach. Usually they keep that door locked. I suppose PennyK's hypothetical could be if the decoupling happened anywhere else in the train. But in this case it didn't. Was between the loco and first coach.

 

There was no derailment.

 

The uncopupling did not happen between the power head and first coach. it was betwwen the First Class and the Quiet Car. That would be the first and second passenger car, so indeed someone could have been walking through. Fortunately that was not the case.


Edited by jis, 06 February 2018 - 02:34 PM.


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Posted 06 February 2018 - 02:42 PM

Why would anyone be walking between the locomotive and the coaches at speed?

Huh?  Can't people walk throughout the train if they want to?
 
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The derailment happened between the locomotive and the first coach. Usually they keep that door locked. I suppose PennyK's hypothetical could be if the decoupling happened anywhere else in the train. But in this case it didn't. Was between the loco and first coach.

There was no derailment.
 
The uncopupling did not happen between the power head and first coach. it was betwwen the First Class and the Quiet Car. That would be the first and second passenger car, so indeed someone could have been walking through. Fortunately that was not the case.


The derailment was a misspeak. But the images I saw showed a greater space between the locomotive and the first coach. Could have been normal, but that's what the photos showed. I'll be happy to stand corrected.

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Posted 06 February 2018 - 02:48 PM

 

 

 

 

Why would anyone be walking between the locomotive and the coaches at speed?

Huh?  Can't people walk throughout the train if they want to?
 
jb

 

The derailment happened between the locomotive and the first coach. Usually they keep that door locked. I suppose PennyK's hypothetical could be if the decoupling happened anywhere else in the train. But in this case it didn't. Was between the loco and first coach.

 

There was no derailment.
 
The uncopupling did not happen between the power head and first coach. it was betwwen the First Class and the Quiet Car. That would be the first and second passenger car, so indeed someone could have been walking through. Fortunately that was not the case.

 


The derailment was a misspeak. But the images I saw showed a greater space between the locomotive and the first coach. Could have been normal, but that's what the photos showed. I'll be happy to stand corrected.

 

Then please do stand corrected because that photo was not showing where the break was. It was showing where an evacuation ladder had been affixed to the door.

 

The gap that you saw is the normal gap between a power head and the adjacent car.



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Posted 06 February 2018 - 03:10 PM

I don't hang out in vestibules, even when the train crew allowed it.



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Posted 06 February 2018 - 04:24 PM

I don't hang out in vestibules, even when the train crew allowed it.

 

I used to, until I was educated out of it. Vestibules are designed to crumple first in the event of a severe collision.


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Posted 06 February 2018 - 07:36 PM

Our local news said that an "Amtrak train broke apart while traveling at high speeds". That made me vision the train was traveling too fast, and due to that excessive speed, broke into millions of pieces. I thought, not again, and headed here for some details. Thankfully, I see the truth is that a coupler simply unhooked.
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Posted 06 February 2018 - 07:38 PM

I don't hang out in vestibules, even when the train crew allowed it.


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Posted 06 February 2018 - 07:52 PM

What ever has happened, simply happened at the worst time....right on the heels of the other events that has kept Amtrak in the negative spotlight..... :(


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Posted 06 February 2018 - 08:47 PM

What ever has happened, simply happened at the worst time....right on the heels of the other events that has kept Amtrak in the negative spotlight..... :(

 

Timing is everything. When it rains, it pours but at least no one was hurt!


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Posted 07 February 2018 - 02:02 AM

What ever has happened, simply happened at the worst time....right on the heels of the other events that has kept Amtrak in the negative spotlight..... :(

Timing is everything. When it rains, it pours but at least no one was hurt!

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Posted 07 February 2018 - 02:45 PM

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Posted 07 February 2018 - 03:42 PM

Though technically the vestibule is everything from the door into the cabin area to the next car, same spot, being in the vestibule per se is not as risky as being in the gangway connection - where the plates are actually moving under you.

I say that only because peering out the windows is not near as dangerous as being in the gangway in the event of a derailment. Even at a 125 MPH, I don't think you'll get sucked out the opening.

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