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#41 Ryan

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Posted 12 February 2018 - 05:42 PM

on to Beech grove for storage



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Posted 12 February 2018 - 09:49 PM

So the Talgo is on its way back from TTC to Chicago and on to Beech grove for storage .

https://www.trainord...d.php?4,4485695

 

Go back and look at the most recent posts.  Of course I can't say anything concrete, but... Lets just say that plans are for them to not be sitting much longer, from what I've been told by sources.


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Posted 13 February 2018 - 10:50 AM

If I've been reading things right, they're going to beech Grove only until the FRA approves the necessary waivers for PNW service.

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Posted 13 February 2018 - 01:28 PM

As I understand it, these trains do not have Business Class.  Perhaps they are being sent to Beech Grove for modification? 


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Posted 14 February 2018 - 02:28 PM

 

Was looking at some pics posted by the Talgo tech riding with the equipment.

Can't want to have the at least the first set back in service! We're also hoping to have the Jefferson set back in service within the next few months as well

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What was the final estimate of damage to Mt. Jefferson?

 

 

Whatever it cost new, because it's not repairable. 

 

Amtrak owes Washington State quite a chunk of change because they destroyed a new Charger and Talgo Trainset that did not belong to them.



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Posted 14 February 2018 - 02:35 PM

Considering how pissed off Washington and Oregon have been with Amtrak even with their handling of the first accident, it is quite understandable that Amtrak will bend over backwards into a pretzel to make things good as much as they can.



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Posted 14 February 2018 - 03:18 PM

What they actually owe them is subject to the agreements between Amtrak and the state, whether the state has them insured, and in any case depreciated or actual cash value rather than replacement cost is more likely to be a legal obligation in a typical contract of this type. Moral obligations have little to do with a case like this.



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Posted 14 February 2018 - 03:37 PM


 


Was looking at some pics posted by the Talgo tech riding with the equipment.

Can't want to have the at least the first set back in service! We're also hoping to have the Jefferson set back in service within the next few months as well

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What was the final estimate of damage to Mt. Jefferson?
 
 
Whatever it cost new, because it's not repairable. 
 
Amtrak owes Washington State quite a chunk of change because they destroyed a new Charger and Talgo Trainset that did not belong to them.

Mt. Jefferson was not destroyed, though. Just damaged. Amtrak won't be needing to pay for a future trainset there.

Mt. Adams was destroyed.

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Posted 14 February 2018 - 07:31 PM

With the one set going back to BEE maybe the title of this thread is threatened ?



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Posted 15 February 2018 - 02:22 AM

How long is the testing segment, the Beech Grove mods and FRA approval?  Trying to estimate the earliest possible arrival date.



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Posted 15 February 2018 - 01:24 PM

The set that went on the field trip is now back at Beech Grove and the Charger is making trips on the Hiawatha.

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Posted 15 February 2018 - 03:36 PM

only reason the set went to pueblo was for curve testing and interaction with the charger, a test done to conclude some of derailment data of train 501. 

the door light waiver had nothing to do with it .



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Posted 15 February 2018 - 03:40 PM

Sounds like the title should be changed to "Former Wisconsin Talgos Going Back Into Storage".

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Posted 15 February 2018 - 04:15 PM

Is it to go into storage or for modificat5ion work to make them suitable for PNW? Just wondering.



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Posted 15 February 2018 - 05:02 PM

My interpretation is that the move to Pueblo and back is unrelated to any potential PNW operation.


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Posted 22 February 2018 - 08:28 PM

How much does it cost the PNW for a set of Talgos compared to a set of six or so Siemens cars?

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Posted 22 February 2018 - 11:26 PM

Still one of the ugliest cab cars in the US. Unfortunately, the Charger doesn't help, even if there was a baggage car with the "sweep" in between.
 

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Posted 23 February 2018 - 02:06 PM

How much does it cost the PNW for a set of Talgos compared to a set of six or so Siemens cars?

 

I realize I probably sound idiotic saying this (and probably pedantic too) but I would think part of the attractiveness of the Talgo's is that they match what's already in service and they are available - are there Siemens that would be ready quickly? I'll let somebody actually knowledgeable speak to the cost.


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Posted 23 February 2018 - 02:10 PM

Plus the Talgos' tilt capability is actually used to maintain the Cascades schedule.






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