Jump to content




Help Support AmtrakTrains.com by donating using the link above or becoming a Supporting Member.

Photo

Fresh Air (Smoking) Stops on the Coast Starlight


  • Please log in to reply
40 replies to this topic

#1 DevalDragon

DevalDragon

    Service Attendant

  • Members
  • PipPip
  • 63 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Chicago
  • Interests:Railroads, Dragons, Travel

Posted 24 January 2018 - 03:49 PM

I have booked a trip on the Coast Starlight from Seattle to Burbank on February 4th, the last day for the PPC. Where are there stops that would be long enough to get out, stretch and take photos of the car? The timetable only shows Portland and the 3 Bay Area stops. I'm sure they are more and they just don't show in the timetable.



#2 greatcats

greatcats

    Engineer

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 2,364 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Flagstaff, Arizona

Posted 24 January 2018 - 03:53 PM

From my observation, fresh air stops should also likely be: Eugene, Klamath Falls, Sacramento, Salinas, San Luis Obispo. Not sure about Santa Barbara.


Sent from my iPhone using Amtrak Forum
I was a commuter railroad employee in NJ for many years until 2002, and have since been a tour guide at Grand Canyon National Park and Ketchikan, Alaska. Also, have been a National Park Volunteer at Hawaii Volcanoes and now Sunset Crater Volcano near my home. If not on Amtrak, also like long road trips, camping some of the time.

#3 Bob Dylan

Bob Dylan

    Engineer

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 17,619 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Austin Texas
  • Interests:Passenger Trains/Travel/Sports/Gov't/ Politics/History/Reading/
    Movies/Music/Space-Ancient Aliens

Posted 24 January 2018 - 04:00 PM

You also will have a break in Sacramento ( its a long way to the Station via the tunnel from the Platform),Davis and Martinez in addition to the 3 Bay Area stops.

Also Paso Robles and Santa Barbara usually allowsfor a brief break if close to the carded Calling time.( Don't leave train side).

It may be dark by the time you reach Santa Barbara in the Winter, and depending on the OTP.

Edited by Bob Dylan, 24 January 2018 - 04:03 PM.

"There's Something About a Train! It's Magic!"-- 1970s Amtrak Ad
 "..My heart is warm with the friends I make,and better friends I'll not be knowing,
Yet there isn't a train I wouldn't take,No matter where its going!.." -Edna St. Vincent Millay

#4 TiBike

TiBike

    OBS Chief

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPip
  • 490 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Alta California

Posted 24 January 2018 - 04:01 PM

Assuming the train isn't running late, Sacramento is usually a long stop. South of San Jose, you can't count on it, but anywhere with baggage service (Salinas, SLO, Santa Barbara) might have enough dwell time for a smoke (some coach attendants certainly think so :-). There are no boardings south of Santa Barbara, so they tend to push, although Oxnard and Van Nuys have baggage service.


Coast Starlight • California Zephyr • Crescent • Lake Shore Limited • San Joaquin • Capitol Corridor • Pacific Surfliner

Shinkansen • TranzAlpine (NZ) • Northern Explorer (NZ) • Coastal Pacific (NZ) • Great Southern Rail Overland (Oz) • Tze-Chiang Limited (ROC) • Thello Venice-Paris

#5 Thirdrail7

Thirdrail7

    Engineer

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 3,173 posts

Posted 24 January 2018 - 04:54 PM

Schedule permitting, the designated stops are PDX, KFS,EMY, OKJ and SJC. However, you can pretty much count on PDX and SAC since they are service stops as well.


They say laughter is the best medicine. Obviously they never posted on AU.


#6 brianpmcdonnell17

brianpmcdonnell17

    Engineer

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 1,069 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Chicago, Illinois

Posted 24 January 2018 - 07:29 PM

When I rode a few weeks ago Emeryville was not a stretch stop. However, we were late and there was an extended stop in Oakland to remove two private cars so I don't know if that is normal.
Routes Travelled: CL WAS-CHI, Card. CHI-WAS, Caro. CLT-RGH, CS SEA-LAX, CZ CHI-RIC, Cre. BAL-ATL, EB SEA-CHI, ES NYG/NYP-NFL, LSL BOS/NYP-CHI, ML ALB-NYP, NER FBG-RVR+WAS-BOS, PS LAX-ANA, Pen. NYP-PGH, Pie. RGH-CLT, SM ORL-NYP, SS MIA-NYP

#7 Philly Amtrak Fan

Philly Amtrak Fan

    Engineer

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 1,889 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Philadelphia Area

Posted 24 January 2018 - 10:07 PM

They should create a thread for the fresh air stops for each of the LD trains. It would be helpful. It also would be good to have a place to keep these handy, sort of a FAQ.


Trains Traveled: Broadway Limited (CHI-Harrisburg, PA), Three Rivers (Harrisburg, PA-CHI, Altoona, PA-CHI, PHL-CHI), Capitol Limited (CHI-WAS), Lake Shore Limited (NYP-CHI), , Silver Meteor (PHL-ORL), Southwest Chief (CHI-LAX), California Zephyr (CHI-SLC, SLC-EMY), City of New Orleans and/or Illini (CHI-Champaign, IL), Texas Eagle (CHI-DAL)
Bring back the Broadway Limited (or Three Rivers or any Chicago-Pittsburgh-Philly train)!
 
https://www.facebook...roadwayLimited/


#8 Ryan

Ryan

    Engineer

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 16,474 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:OTN
  • Interests:a fact checker combined with a ferret

Posted 24 January 2018 - 10:14 PM

There is no "they". Feel free to create one!
Posted Image

Disclaimer: Any images or links you see in my post may in fact be invasive advertising or even fraudulent phishing attacks silently injected into my post by our spam based hosting service. If anything looks suspicious or inappropriate or you have any doubt whatsoever then do not click any links (particularly those appearing in green and/or with a double underline) or interact with the spam in any way. You may also want to consider using ad-blocking plugins such as Adblock Plus and/or Ghostery)to help reduce the number and severity of advertising scams directed at you.

#9 brianpmcdonnell17

brianpmcdonnell17

    Engineer

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 1,069 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Chicago, Illinois

Posted 24 January 2018 - 11:15 PM

It would be helpful to have a thread for each LD train so I will create one and list the stops for each train I know.

Edited: I just posted the thread.
http://discuss.amtra...st/#entry738973

Edited by brianpmcdonnell17, 24 January 2018 - 11:40 PM.

Routes Travelled: CL WAS-CHI, Card. CHI-WAS, Caro. CLT-RGH, CS SEA-LAX, CZ CHI-RIC, Cre. BAL-ATL, EB SEA-CHI, ES NYG/NYP-NFL, LSL BOS/NYP-CHI, ML ALB-NYP, NER FBG-RVR+WAS-BOS, PS LAX-ANA, Pen. NYP-PGH, Pie. RGH-CLT, SM ORL-NYP, SS MIA-NYP

#10 chakk

chakk

    Engineer

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 2,289 posts
  • Gender:Male

Posted 28 January 2018 - 12:44 AM

While there may be several smoke stops usually on LD trains, I don’t think there are any “guaranteed” smoke stops. And if an LD train is detouring, there may be none. For example, I’ve ridden a detouring CZ between Denver and Salt Lake City, and a detouring CS between LA and Oakland with no smoke stops enroute on either 8-hour-plus journey.


Sent from my iPhone using Amtrak Forum

#11 Palmetto

Palmetto

    Engineer

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 1,732 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Southmost Texas

Posted 28 January 2018 - 07:20 AM

I've seen them jump off at Eugene for a quick puff or two.



#12 PVD

PVD

    Engineer

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 3,327 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:NYC/Queens

Posted 28 January 2018 - 07:20 AM

Smoking Policy
All Amtrak trains, Thruway buses and stations are entirely non-smoking. No one may smoke anything in any area on trains, on Thruway services, in stations or in any other location where smoking is prohibited. This includes:

Electronic smoking devices, such as electronic cigarettes.
Marijuana. The use or transportation of marijuana for any purpose is prohibited, even in states where recreational use is legal or permitted medically.
Smoking Stops May Be Available

If time and conditions permit, passengers may smoke on station platforms at longer stops only as announced by train crews. Smoking elsewhere and at other times is not permitted
Passengers must remain next to the train, ready to re-board immediately upon hearing the sound of the locomotive horn and the all aboard calls from Amtrak employees.
Smoking stops may be shortened or eliminated entirely if the train is operating late.State or local laws may prohibit smoking on station platforms.



#13 brianpmcdonnell17

brianpmcdonnell17

    Engineer

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 1,069 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Chicago, Illinois

Posted 28 January 2018 - 11:34 AM

While there may be several smoke stops usually on LD trains, I dont think there are any guaranteed smoke stops. And if an LD train is detouring, there may be none. For example, Ive ridden a detouring CZ between Denver and Salt Lake City, and a detouring CS between LA and Oakland with no smoke stops enroute on either 8-hour-plus journey.


Sent from my iPhone using Amtrak Forum

There are some stop that are always lengthy due to a large number of people boarding/detraining and/or equipment reasons such as refueling, combining/splitting the train, or performing an engine change. Examples of these include Jacksonville, Washington, Denver, Albuquerque, Spokane, San Antonio, and Albany-Rensselaer.

Edited by brianpmcdonnell17, 28 January 2018 - 11:34 AM.

Routes Travelled: CL WAS-CHI, Card. CHI-WAS, Caro. CLT-RGH, CS SEA-LAX, CZ CHI-RIC, Cre. BAL-ATL, EB SEA-CHI, ES NYG/NYP-NFL, LSL BOS/NYP-CHI, ML ALB-NYP, NER FBG-RVR+WAS-BOS, PS LAX-ANA, Pen. NYP-PGH, Pie. RGH-CLT, SM ORL-NYP, SS MIA-NYP

#14 ParanoidAndroid

ParanoidAndroid

    Conductor

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 604 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Varies
  • Interests:Math, old train schedules

Posted 28 January 2018 - 11:39 AM

San Luis Obispo is a 13 minute stop in both directions... it's just not shown on the CS timetable, but is on the Pacific Surfliner timetable at the back.

I've ridden on Amtrak on the Cascades #516 (SEA-STW), Coast Starlight #14 (LAX-SLO, LAX-PDX, KFS-SEA), Southwest Chief #4 (LAX-CHI), Cardinal #50 (CHI-NYP), Northeast Regional #85 (NYP-WAS), Capitol Limited #30 (HFY-WAS), Cascades #501 (SEA-PDX), Coast Starlight #11 (SLO-LAX, PDX-KFS), and many Pacific Surfliners with Amtrak. I've seen in stations, including the previous, the California Zephyr #5 at SAC (lucky), what I guess to be Crescent #19 (at WAS) and Silver Meteor #97 (at WAS), Empire Builder #28 at PDX, Sunset Limited #2/Texas Eagle #422 at LAX, and Empire Builder #27 at PDX. I have also ridden the Hokutosei in Japan, Ueno - Sapporo (now discontinued).


#15 chakk

chakk

    Engineer

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 2,289 posts
  • Gender:Male

Posted 30 January 2018 - 02:32 AM

SLO is a crew change point for the CS, so a fresh air break is most definitely possible


Sent from my iPhone using Amtrak Forum

#16 Palmetto

Palmetto

    Engineer

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 1,732 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Southmost Texas

Posted 30 January 2018 - 06:41 AM

La Plata, MO could've been a smoking stop yesterday.  #4 arrived 13 minutes early.



#17 SP&S

SP&S

    OBS Chief

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPip
  • 458 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:PDX

Posted 30 January 2018 - 07:12 PM

Unless things have changed PDX is a fresh air stop but smoking is not allowed on the platform or in the station.  Also, the doors to the tracks close ten minutes before departure so If, as the old song goes, ya gotta have another cigarette, check before going out the front doors.



#18 Seaboard92

Seaboard92

    Engineer

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 2,354 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:South Carolina
  • Interests:-Amtrak
    -New York Central
    -Seaboard Airline
    -Scriptwriting

Posted 30 January 2018 - 07:49 PM

On a good day 11 should arrive into PDX an hour before departure. Its carded for an hour to go between Vancouver into Portland. And it's a thirty minute stop.
View my pictures at http://trainboy1.rrpicturearchives.net
Amtrak Routes I've riden: Silver Star(NYP-ORL), Silver Meteor(KIS-NYP),Carolinian(CLT-NWK), Palmetto (FLO-NYP), Acela(WAS-NYP), NE Regional(WBG-RVR), Pacific Surfliner(SAN-OSD), Piedmont(CLT-SAL), Crescent(NYP-CLT), Cardinal (WAS-CHI), Capitol Limited (CHI-WAS), Cascade (PDX-SEA)
Steam Engines I've worked behind: Norfolk & Western No. 611; Nickel Plate Road No. 765; Southern Pacific No. 4449
 

#19 dogbert617

dogbert617

    OBS Chief

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPip
  • 261 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Chicago, IL

Posted 06 February 2018 - 07:29 AM

Unless things have changed PDX is a fresh air stop but smoking is not allowed on the platform or in the station.  Also, the doors to the tracks close ten minutes before departure so If, as the old song goes, ya gotta have another cigarette, check before going out the front doors.

Does that mean you have to exit the platform, and walk through the station and then to the street to smoke at Portland? Good to know, and I'll remember that if I ever ride the Coast Starlight. And of course, to be careful about doing that if a station stop is shortened.



#20 Lonestar648

Lonestar648

    Engineer

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 2,631 posts
  • Gender:Male

Posted 07 February 2018 - 06:04 PM

Good information. Are there other CS stops that do not allow smoking on the platform where passengers might take a smoking break?






0 user(s) are reading this topic

0 members, 0 guests, 0 anonymous users