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#21 WoodyinNYC

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Posted 13 January 2018 - 02:32 PM

On the contract status front, was there any discussion here of the Amtrak Inspector General report, date Nov 16 2017, which has useful information: TRAIN OPERATIONS: The Acela Express 2021 Program Faces Oversight Weaknesses and Schedule Risks

 

Anyone want to bet that all of these projects will be completed by 2021 or 2022?

Much delay and it will start to pinch. Deliver the cars on time and start to make money, to make the first payment in June. Otherwise, anyone spare some change?



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Posted 13 January 2018 - 03:34 PM

 

 

 

...was there any discussion here of the Amtrak Inspector General report, date Nov 16 2017 ?  It stated there was already a 3 month slip or delay in the design and production schedule.

 

The infrastructure portion of the  program includes 10  projects on the Northeast Corridor totaling $850 million. ... four of these projects must be completed to run the new trainsets, and two must be completed to run trains on the higher-frequency timetable.

Anyone want to bet that all of these projects will be completed by 2021 or 2022?

Completed on schedule? Nah. Alstom says they're already 89 days behind. In the end, I'm betting that the Sunnyside Yard item entangled with the Metropolitan Transportation Authority is the one Least Likely To Succeed. YMMV

 

 

89 days isn't much on such a large order like this. I have faith in Alstom. Unlike the Bombardier-Alstom Consortium. 


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Posted 18 January 2018 - 08:01 PM

Alstom released a short YouTube video illustrating the progression of their HSR train set design. The link was kindly posted on railfan.net.


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Posted 19 January 2018 - 12:50 PM

I think those are going to be some beautiful trains when delivered. The question is can we wait 2-3 more years of the Acela product degrading?


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Posted 20 January 2018 - 04:19 AM

There really is no choice on that matter. So suck it up and bear it.


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Posted 13 February 2018 - 07:56 PM

Alston has extended its facility lease and hired more workers. More Amtrak related work will ramp-up in April.

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Posted 13 February 2018 - 09:00 PM

Good to know.


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Posted 17 July 2018 - 10:17 PM

I have noticed that recently there has been zero info coming out on the new trainsets. Which to me is a good thing. I'm going to guess that sooner or later we'll see some leaked photos of the new trainsets. IIRC the Estimated Delivery Date for the prototype set is First Quarter 2019. 


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Posted 20 July 2018 - 01:16 AM

I have noticed since February 2018, there have been quite a few job notice postings at Alston in the local newspaper, but no new newspaper articles.

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Posted 20 July 2018 - 09:31 AM

I just want to emphasize, “Avelia Liberty” is possibly the worst name ever applied to any piece of rolling stock in the history of mankind. It’s just awful.
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Posted 20 July 2018 - 09:53 AM

I just want to emphasize, Avelia Liberty is possibly the worst name ever applied to any piece of rolling stock in the history of mankind. Its just awful.

Yep, I'm thinking Acela II will somehow end up being the "Official" Name, but even if not, train fans,and riders will call them by that name!

Best Name ever for a LD Train "The Orient Express".😎

Best here, " The Wabash Cannonball" or " The City of Everywhere".😉

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Posted 20 July 2018 - 10:11 AM

Silver Streak Zephyr has gotta be my favorite LD name.

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Posted 20 July 2018 - 10:19 AM

I just want to emphasize, “Avelia Liberty” is possibly the worst name ever applied to any piece of rolling stock in the history of mankind. It’s just awful.

Acelas train sets were “American Flyer” before Lionel got on their case. Then they changed it to something else. Fortunately, manufacturer’s product name seldom has much to do with branding of service using those products.

Afterall RaiLJets are not called Viaggio either.
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Posted 20 July 2018 - 03:33 PM

 

I just want to emphasize, “Avelia Liberty” is possibly the worst name ever applied to any piece of rolling stock in the history of mankind. It’s just awful.

Acelas train sets were “American Flyer” before Lionel got on their case. 

 

And the term American Flyer wasn't original IMO. Acela is for sure original and IMO sounds better then "American Flyer". But the one thing I'll always get a kick out of is that Amtrak claims they renamed the Acela project as a "departure from the original name". 


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Posted 08 August 2018 - 05:08 PM

Amtrak posted projected images of the new Acela II trainsets on their media page. A thank you to Jis for posting this on the AU facebook page. 

 

The new trainsets appear to have a more European look. Which IMO is not a surprise considering the builder is Alstom. Personally I was hoping for a more European look compared to what we have now. 

 

https://media.amtrak...traininteriors/


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Posted 08 August 2018 - 05:51 PM

Amtrak posted projected images of the new Acela II trainsets on their media page. A thank you to Jis for posting this on the AU facebook page. 
 
The new trainsets appear to have a more European look. Which IMO is not a surprise considering the builder is Alstom. Personally I was hoping for a more European look compared to what we have now. 
 
https://media.amtrak...traininteriors/


It'll be great when these arrive. I love riding the Acela trains now, but they're definitely getting a bit shabby although my last ride was a few months ago before they started the interior updates.

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Posted 08 August 2018 - 07:19 PM

Amtrak posted projected images of the new Acela II trainsets on their media page. A thank you to Jis for posting this on the AU facebook page. 

 

The new trainsets appear to have a more European look. Which IMO is not a surprise considering the builder is Alstom. Personally I was hoping for a more European look compared to what we have now. 

 

https://media.amtrak...traininteriors/

 

Picture 6 shows Boston as next stop, time 1452, and speed 175.  We believe that is several Gothas ?/  Also WC for water closet ? 


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Posted 08 August 2018 - 08:18 PM

 

Amtrak posted projected images of the new Acela II trainsets on their media page. A thank you to Jis for posting this on the AU facebook page. 

 

The new trainsets appear to have a more European look. Which IMO is not a surprise considering the builder is Alstom. Personally I was hoping for a more European look compared to what we have now. 

 

https://media.amtrak...traininteriors/

 

Picture 6 shows Boston as next stop, time 1452, and speed 175.  We believe that is several Gothas ?/  Also WC for water closet ? 

 

To be fair, hard to fit "toilet" into a small light like that and WC is probably more universally recognized that other symbols for the toilet.


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Posted 08 August 2018 - 09:02 PM

By the way, the seats are fixed. Half will face the direction of travel and  half will face the other way. Guess who gets to pay more? Enjoy your assigned seat!  ^_^ 


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Posted 08 August 2018 - 09:35 PM

By the way, the seats are fixed. Half will face the direction of travel and  half will face the other way. Guess who gets to pay more? Enjoy your assigned seat!  ^_^

THAT SUCKS!  I really hate this new attitude that we have to accept riding backwards at 160 mph.

 

Why can't we be as clever as the Japanese regarding this? 

 

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