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A few questions for a group of 4 first time Amtrak travelers


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#21 Guest_Guest_*

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Posted 29 January 2018 - 12:36 PM

There are a few odd spots where passengers are received and discharged where the train may leave early. They are designated with an L on the timetables, and some marked D which are discharge only where the train leaves when ready.



#22 zephyr17

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Posted 31 January 2018 - 04:44 PM

Since railroads no longer operate using timetable and train order authority,it is no longer a railroad rule. The public timetable conveys no operational authority and the railroad employee "timetable" has no times in it.

However, Amtrak will not leave before time in most cases and the exceptions are noted in the timetable(the "D" note for a lot them). But that is for passenger convienence, not operational rule.
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#23 chakk

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Posted 03 February 2018 - 02:39 AM

I agree that TT&TO is no longer used on any Amtrak route. And that some trains at some stations have designations in the timetable that said train may leave early when its work is complete. And that the Auto Train is a special case for which all passengers and their vehicles must be checked in by a certain time well before the posted departure time. Once those vehicles are loaded and the train is buttoned up, it may depart — there can be no “last minute” arrivees at Lorton or Sanford desiring to purchase their ticket 5 minutes before the scheduled departure time.

But for other LD trains that arrive at a regular station early, THEY WAIT until their published departure time, even if all passengers on the manifest are aboard. Because someone MIGHT show up at the last minute to purchase a ticket on board. I’ve experienced this dozens of times on the CZ, with dwell times at places like Elko being as much as 30 minutes waiting for the departure time printed in the timetable. And all the smokers had already reboarded the train.


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Edited by chakk, 03 February 2018 - 02:43 AM.


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Posted 14 February 2018 - 11:56 AM

Unmanned stations dwell time seems to be very short, the conductors being very efficient to get stopped and going again in a couple minutes. Barely stopping if there is no manifest work and no one on the platform.



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