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#41 greatcats

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Posted 18 November 2017 - 12:50 PM

You told ‘ em Ed. Hello from Flagstaff.


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Posted 18 November 2017 - 12:58 PM

Exactly!!! I spend hours upon hours in the lounge car on the zephyr. Sometimes I'll look at my phone, sometimes I'll play cards with my self. Sometimes I wear a hat to the diner. All of this offends some members on here who have strict travel guidelines.

Also, I've never asked for a specific Roomette, and never really cared which one I get. I prefer the upper level for the views but the Lower level is sometimes quieter. I've had good and bad service in both regular sleepers and the transition cars so that assignment doesn't concern me in the least either.

If im spending the kind of money im spending to ride Amtrak im not going to limit my time in the lounge.

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#43 Steve4031

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Posted 19 November 2017 - 08:46 AM

To be fair to Tennessee Travelers, he took care to plan ahead to ensure his needs and desires were met. Room 3. IMHO a responsible traveler.

When Amtrak moved him to room 18 in the transition car, this was a considerable downgrade. Many of us know that the transition car shares the sca with other cars so it's more difficult to get the bed put up and down and other needs met.

Personally, I have no issues with pax who sleep in the lounge car. I don't go in there at night. The few times I passed through it looked liked there were still seats available to sit in. Additionally, some crews makes announcements that night time cell phone conversation should occur in the lounge car.

I don't think Tennessee Traveler should be judged, nor should pax who sleep in the lounge car. Some of these people travel out of necessity(unlike us) and they are adjusting to a unsual experience.

So live and let live.


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Posted 19 November 2017 - 09:04 AM

I apologise, my annoyance was directed at folk who judge me, stick lables on me for sleeping in the lounge. We are all entitled to travel or not in the way that suits us individually.

 

Live and let live is the way.

 

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Posted 19 November 2017 - 05:40 PM

I personally try not to judge other travelers. I try to listen to different experiences & maybe learn from them! BUT, the #1 thing that gets under my skin is folks ,in the SSL, that put their  books ,I Pads etc., in the  seats while they go eat lunch or take a nap!!!!! :angry2:


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Posted 20 November 2017 - 01:01 AM

When I am traveling with a companion, since some nights sleep isn't possible even with several prescriptions, I will try to sit in the SSL so not to disturb my companion sleeping in the other bunk.  I am annoyed if the sleepers have piled their stuff in all the chairs or stretched over them so there is no place to sit.  A couple times a Conductor has helped create a space and one time even invited me to sit in the DC since they were having coffee there.  I just want to enjoy the outside in an attempt to distract my mind for a few hours.  I will say there are times someone who was sleeping saw me and helped me by moving their and/or a companions things, I always apologize for waking them, I know how precious sleep is to get.  Also, I know I cant sleep in the Coach seats.



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Posted 20 November 2017 - 01:19 PM

Personally, I am not "judging anyone" nor giving anyone names such as "lizard lounge".  I was simply reporting the disappointment I had in the sudden removal of the sleeping car I was assigned and "for me" unsatisfactory reassignment since I make my reservations several months in advance and pay my money for the same.  Since my personal schedule is flexible, I simply am happier changing my dates of travel instead of traveling at such a time when I feel my trip had been technically downgraded.  The lesson I learned about booking the lowest number sleeper is just that -- a learned lesson I will practice in the future.

 

Amtrak was kind enough to refund all my $$ and points with no refund penalty.  They would have credited my $$ back to my credit card without penalty but I chose to receive the refund in an e-voucher.  Also, from a personal point of view, I had already booked and planned trips in February and April so cancelling the December trip while disappointing was made knowing I will soon be traveling Amtrak in my favorite roomette location and hopefully many more to come. In fact I used some of my refunded points to books a June trip on the Crescent New Orleans to New York City.  I am considering booking my departure from NYC on the Cardinal to Chicago since I've never ridden that train.  I have ridden the Lake Shore Limited two or three times and the Capitol Limited several times each way.  Anyway, all is well and I'm not judging anyone.



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Posted 20 November 2017 - 02:31 PM

Personally, I am not "judging anyone" nor giving anyone names such as "lizard lounge".  I was simply reporting the disappointment I had in the sudden removal of the sleeping car I was assigned and "for me" unsatisfactory reassignment since I make my reservations several months in advance and pay my money for the same.  Since my personal schedule is flexible, I simply am happier changing my dates of travel instead of traveling at such a time when I feel my trip had been technically downgraded.  The lesson I learned about booking the lowest number sleeper is just that -- a learned lesson I will practice in the future.

 

Amtrak was kind enough to refund all my $$ and points with no refund penalty.  They would have credited my $$ back to my credit card without penalty but I chose to receive the refund in an e-voucher.  Also, from a personal point of view, I had already booked and planned trips in February and April so cancelling the December trip while disappointing was made knowing I will soon be traveling Amtrak in my favorite roomette location and hopefully many more to come. In fact I used some of my refunded points to books a June trip on the Crescent New Orleans to New York City.  I am considering booking my departure from NYC on the Cardinal to Chicago since I've never ridden that train.  I have ridden the Lake Shore Limited two or three times and the Capitol Limited several times each way.  Anyway, all is well and I'm not judging anyone.

 if cardinal were to get a VL diner, i would ride it.  otherwise, no.  same with LSL these days.



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Posted 20 November 2017 - 02:49 PM

 

You can get good shots through a window if you use a rubber lens hood and shoot straight out with the rubber hood touching the glass. Here are 2 shots taken seconds apart from the Zephyr. One right up to the glass and one a short distance from the glass. You can see reflections on the 2nd but not the 1st.

Great idea.  Thanks for the tip. Wish I knew that this past summer.

 

The lens hood is a great idea.  If you can take the cut in light transmission a polarizing filter works wonders in cutting reflections.  It also can make the sky a deeper blue.



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Posted 20 November 2017 - 03:56 PM

The train windows are tinted, and a polarizing filter has limits regarding the angle of the sun to the long axis of the lens as far as an increase of sky color saturation.

Indeed, once the Sun is more than about 30° above the horizon the increased saturation (deeper blue) of the sky a polarizing filter provides starts getting uneven with one side of an image being more saturated than the other.

Mid-day is the worst time to use a polarizing filter if you are wanting that increased saturation of the sky.

 

You want the sun lower than 30° and 90° to the long axis of the lens.


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Posted 20 November 2017 - 08:19 PM

Indeed the polarizer has limits on what it can do to the sky, but it's a great weapon against reflections when shooting at an angle thru a window.  (Although sometimes it will bring out stress patterns in the glazing and be absolutely useless)  Just was suggesting one more thing to try.



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Posted Yesterday, 03:18 PM

Hello,

 

I am new to this forum and i will be taking my first trip on a Amtrak, Zephyr during christmas week. i am travelling from San Francisco to Grand Junction CO. after 4 days of Arches park, Monument valley, i will be heading to Denver. When i tried to book coach tickets from Grand junction to Denver, it showed only the roomette available and no coach seats. but coach seats were available from Green River UT (one stop before Grand junction), so i took the tickets. I called amtrak customer service to confirm that i can board from Grand junction instead of green river (since my car rental has to be returned at Grand junction). they said that there will be track repair work at Grand junction(hence no coach seats) and no will be able to board from there and they may make transportation arrangements for people who have tickets from GJ. 

 

I am not sure how roomette seats show up but not coach when no one can board from GJ. Also do they really make alternate bus transport and take you to previous station for boarding and if so, how early will they notify you. I need to make hotel reservations in GJ or Green river plus find a bus from GJ to Green river myself. 

 

I appreciate any help or advice. 



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Posted Yesterday, 05:13 PM

The mods might want to start a new thread with this last post.

Samsj, im suggesting new thread with your post so it will get more views and you might get better information.

To answer your question, I suspect that the track work is for the track that runs next to the platform. If that track is out of service it's complicated to load and unload large groups of passengers like those in coach. Sleepers carry fewer pax per car thus smaller groups to board.

The CZ is serviced in grand Junction so I don't understand why they would not have some provisions for all pax.


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Posted Yesterday, 05:24 PM

Thanks Steve. i will post a new thread..






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