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#21 chakk

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Posted 20 November 2017 - 07:31 PM

A little over 10 years ago it wasn't uncommon for trains to appear out of no where and the question would arise.. What train was that?? Bottom line being that Amtrak would run extra sections of a train. So for instance train 1234 would leave DC at 12pm and was full so Amtrak would run a second train 1234 10 minutes behind it. These days, Amtrak runs longer trains rather then extra sections. I'll guess that has to do with crew availability.. Either way you still see Commuter Equipment on Sundays. 

If extra sections of a timetabled train are being run, then the first train and all extra section except the last should be displaying green flags on the lead locomotive.


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Posted 20 November 2017 - 11:04 PM

A little over 10 years ago it wasn't uncommon for trains to appear out of no where and the question would arise.. What train was that?? Bottom line being that Amtrak would run extra sections of a train. So for instance train 1234 would leave DC at 12pm and was full so Amtrak would run a second train 1234 10 minutes behind it. These days, Amtrak runs longer trains rather then extra sections. I'll guess that has to do with crew availability.. Either way you still see Commuter Equipment on Sundays. 

If extra sections of a timetabled train are being run, then the first train and all extra section except the last should be displaying green flags on the lead locomotive.


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Or green lights on the locomotive(s)

#23 Palmetto

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Posted Yesterday, 06:34 AM

I don't think they do lights and flags on Amtrak, do they?  



#24 MikefromCrete

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Posted Yesterday, 08:23 AM

I don't think there are many railroad operators who use white and green flags and lights anymore. The advent of radio communications and centralized dispatcher have done away with the flags and lights. 



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Posted Yesterday, 09:32 AM

Even if it were still procedure, they aren't actually running extra sections, they are running "extra trains". and they are assigned numbers and listed in the timetable in advance.



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Posted Yesterday, 09:37 AM

Yeah, as far as I can tell, and Thirdrail can of course correct me if I am wrong, it has been a long time since Amtrak ran any "extra sections". They do run additional time tabled trains for which a separate time table is published.



#27 PVD

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Posted Yesterday, 10:23 AM

Last extra sections I rode were on "Eastern Air Shuttle" They kept rolling out planes until everyone on line was on a plane. Collected fares on board. Sometimes the hours would blend.....(still doing extras for 5 o'clock when it was time for 6 o'clock) but as they went to bigger planes it was less common



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Posted Yesterday, 10:29 AM

176 out of Roanoke had 9 coaches + engine this morning [that is 1 extra coach]. Enough leaves have fallen now that I can see it clearly from my home as it passes through CVS.This augmented consist has been normal in past years around TG and maybe 1 or 2 other occasions. But in view of the reported limitation at Roanoke, variously attributed on another thread to overnight storage space, platform or wye, one wonders how this is possible. ;)


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#29 Ryan

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Posted Yesterday, 10:57 AM

Pay attention to sources. The one that knows what they are talking about says it’s the wye, and that they are looking at an increase to 10.

Sounds to me like that’s a tight fit, but 10 can be accommodated.

If you see more than that, then they’re doing the extra work to cut the consist and wye it in pieces.
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Posted Yesterday, 11:03 AM

i would imagine that need be, you could probably add/drop a car with the engine swap in Washington if you cant run it all the way South. 



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Posted Yesterday, 09:11 PM

Last extra sections I rode were on "Eastern Air Shuttle" They kept rolling out planes until everyone on line was on a plane. Collected fares on board. Sometimes the hours would blend.....(still doing extras for 5 o'clock when it was time for 6 o'clock) but as they went to bigger planes it was less common

 

Except now, when we roll out an extra plane, it will be a jet-powered Electra.  (from a Washington Post ad I have when they retired the 1049 Constellations.



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Posted Yesterday, 09:41 PM

Connies, Electras, DC-9, 727, and towards the end A-300 (only Boston, not permitted to DCA at the time)  If a DC-9 was the first section, the Electra was waiting in the wings (ouch). Then, when the Electras retired it was 727-DC-9. The 727-200s were around pretty much till the end of the actual shuttle...They flew for US Air and Trump also





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