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#1 jis

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Posted 09 October 2017 - 10:16 AM

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Westmoreland vote several times to defund Amtrak when he was in Congress. Now he has been appointed to the Amtrak Board for a five year term.

 



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Posted 09 October 2017 - 10:36 AM

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Posted 09 October 2017 - 12:52 PM

Most boards and commissions are dumping grounds for political hacks that want to stay in Washington when their elected political careers are over.

This seems to be such a case since this person was pretty much an empty suit in Congress.

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Posted 09 October 2017 - 01:10 PM

Most boards and commissions are dumping grounds for political hacks that want to stay in Washington when their elected political careers are over.

This seems to be such a case since this person was pretty much an empty suit in Congress.

But he does get to vote on policies that apply to Amtrak on its Board. That is the main point. Whether the suit is empty or full is not the issue.



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Posted 09 October 2017 - 01:15 PM

 

Most boards and commissions are dumping grounds for political hacks that want to stay in Washington when their elected political careers are over.

This seems to be such a case since this person was pretty much an empty suit in Congress.

But he does get to vote on policies that apply to Amtrak on its Board. That is the main point. Whether the suit is empty or full is not the issue.

 

 

No empty suit likes to eliminate their own position.

At least not as long as a fat salary comes with the position.



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Posted 09 October 2017 - 01:30 PM

 

 

Most boards and commissions are dumping grounds for political hacks that want to stay in Washington when their elected political careers are over.

This seems to be such a case since this person was pretty much an empty suit in Congress.

But he does get to vote on policies that apply to Amtrak on its Board. That is the main point. Whether the suit is empty or full is not the issue.

 

 

No empty suit likes to eliminate their own position.

At least not as long as a fat salary comes with the position.

 

But removing food service and doing other downgrades do not necessarily remove the position. The whole idea is to keep it limping along without making any significant investment with good management. Any suit, empty or otherwise, is perfectly capable of fulfilling that requirement. Even a moron can fulfill that. ;)



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Posted 09 October 2017 - 01:55 PM

President Donald J. Trump has named former Republican Congressman Leon Acton “Lynn” Westmoreland of Georgia—who as a member of Congress voted at least twice to defund Amtrak—to the Amtrak Board of Directors for a five-year term.

 
Looks like he's trying to make Amtrak great again.  Speaking of which, where did all the MAGA apologists go?  Haven't heard so much as a peep in months.


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Posted 09 October 2017 - 03:59 PM

Have you seen the more recent interpretation of MAGA? ROTFL! Not to be discussed any further here out of respect for the sensitivities of the MAGA types. :P



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Posted 09 October 2017 - 04:29 PM

Something about millionaires and golf? :ph34r:

Given the woes with Amtrak's website, I can't tell how many more folks of this ilk Trump can pack on the board. Hopefully the damage they cause is minimal.
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Posted 09 October 2017 - 09:39 PM

The thing I'm wondering is:  were his votes to defund Amtrak part of a larger bill?   In other words, what often happens in Congress is that one has to vote on a multi-faceted bill as an "all or nothing" kind of deal.  As in "if you want this part of the bill to pass, you must vote for this other part".

 

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Posted 09 October 2017 - 11:28 PM

His votes were on specific narrow amendments to THUD appropriation zeroing out funding for Amtrak.


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Posted 10 October 2017 - 09:57 AM

Well, another piece of human garbage put in place to make trouble.  But the great thing about a board is, he's going to be outvoted.


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Posted 10 October 2017 - 12:14 PM

I am now going to say this publicly, Nate: dont draw fangs on those you oppose, nor halos on those you support. Westmoreland is a former politician and current political hack and a foe of Amtrak. I doubt, however, that he is a piece of garbage.

By stating so, especially publicly, you are only damaging your own credibility. You dont have to pretend to be Barney, or Mr. Rogers; there is nothing wrong with expressing your fears about problems associated with Westmorelands appointment. But your post is strictly a puerile ad hominem attack on the whole of a person I assume you know little about due to one specific (if important) issue you are at loggerheads with.

I think you have the enthusiasm and intelligence to be an important contributor to rail advocacy in this country, but you need to be careful with your public perception. If I were you, I would ask the mods to change the verbiage of your post; if they do so, they can feel free to remove my references to it.

The overall point, however is important to fully understAnd for everyone: our political allies are not angels, nor are our political foes devils. Which is why we should stick to the issues.
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Posted 10 October 2017 - 12:28 PM

That is very well stated GML. Fully agree with you.



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Posted 10 October 2017 - 12:38 PM

I am now going to say this publicly, Nate: dont draw fangs on those you oppose, nor halos on those you support. Westmoreland is a former politician and current political hack and a foe of Amtrak. I doubt, however, that he is a piece of garbage.

By stating so, especially publicly, you are only damaging your own credibility. You dont have to pretend to be Barney, or Mr. Rogers; there is nothing wrong with expressing your fears about problems associated with Westmorelands appointment. But your post is strictly a puerile ad hominem attack on the whole of a person I assume you know little about due to one specific (if important) issue you are at loggerheads with.

I think you have the enthusiasm and intelligence to be an important contributor to rail advocacy in this country, but you need to be careful with your public perception. If I were you, I would ask the mods to change the verbiage of your post; if they do so, they can feel free to remove my references to it.

The overall point, however is important to fully understAnd for everyone: our political allies are not angels, nor are our political foes devils. Which is why we should stick to the issues.

 

Well said.  

 

If we looked hard enough, there is likely not a single pro-rail politician in Congress or the respective states with whom we are in complete agreement (with the inverse also true); There will always be some issue on which we may respectfully disagree.  

 

Anymore, people seem to have trouble with respectful disagreement.  If we were to actually sit down to dinner with some of the politicians and others often vilified on these boards, we'd often find them a pleasant individual, and perhaps both 'sides' have an enlightening conversation.  


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Posted 10 October 2017 - 01:58 PM

A Voice:some of what you say is true about most politicians, but with the current political climate in this country, reasoning and compromise have become dirty words to the fanatical right!😥

And based on over 50 years of personal experience,some politicians are so slimy you want to take a shower after being around them! YMMV
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Posted 10 October 2017 - 02:18 PM

This guy is probably Joe Boardman light. Just another bureaucrat looking to ride it out with a taxpayer salary to fill his pockets until retirement.

The bottom line is that congress puts together the budget and votes to fund Amtrak. The president can recommend but has little to do with that. If you consider that defunding Amtrak would be political suicide for most in congress, I say it will never happen. The small town and rural areas of the country depend on rail transportation as much as people do on the East and West Coast. IMO, Amtrak will be kept afloat for political purposes but not expanded.


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Posted 10 October 2017 - 02:40 PM

My concern is not that Congress will defund Amtrak, but that the Amtrak Board will misuse or make ineffective use of funds appropriated for Amtrak, and thus make it difficult to have Amtrak operate as an efficient organization. lord knows that is already a problem, and appointments like this do not improve matters.

 

Let me take this opportunity to remind you of the damage done to service by one errant CFO appointed by political manipulation of a spineless CEO by an errant Congressman in a leadership position in Congress in the recent past. Hopefully that illustration will clarify what my fears are. If ones plan is to hollow out and destroy Amtrak from within, one could not have dreamed up a better appointment.


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Posted 10 October 2017 - 02:55 PM

There will always be some issue on which we may respectfully disagree.  Anymore, people seem to have trouble with respectful disagreement.  If we were to actually sit down to dinner with some of the politicians and others often vilified on these boards, we'd often find them a pleasant individual, and perhaps both 'sides' have an enlightening conversation.

 

Our previous leader was respectful, gracious, and forever open to compromise.  Even when it left him weakened and isolated as a result. Meanwhile our new leader is a childish and vulgar affront to the very concept of civil discourse and mature understanding. You have repeatedly lamented that a man who has done everything he can to inflame our emotions and burn every bridge he touches and turn each American against each other isn't granted enough respect by the same people he attacks and berates and belittles.  Elections have consequences, and one of the repercussions of this last election is that those who mocked compassion and attacked basic civility no longer have any right to expect it from others.


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Posted 10 October 2017 - 05:24 PM

Nah. I won't say what I really want to say :D Reserve it for some other forum some other day ;)


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