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#61 KmH

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Posted 09 November 2017 - 11:30 PM

On Google Maps it looks like the Holiday Inn Express is a fairly new addition in Williams.

https://www.google.c...m/data=!3m1!1e3

It was a vacant lot back in September of 2011:

https://www.google.c...!7i13312!8i6656

 

And there will soon be, or is, a La Quinta Inn & Suites adjacent to the Holiday inn Express.

 

Grand Canyon Railway Hotel (Xanterra) has new competition re accommodations.

 

It was a vacant lot back in September of 2011:

https://www.google.c...!7i13312!8i6656


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Posted 10 November 2017 - 08:40 AM

Effective January 1, 2018 service will be discontinued at Williams Junction (WMJ). Trains 3 & 4 will no longer stop at Williams Junction. New Thruway service between Flagstaff and Williams(WMA) begins January 1, 2018, stopping at the Holiday Inn Express, NOT the Grand Canyon Railway(WMA). These changes will be reflected through the reservation channels beginning November 15th




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Posted 10 November 2017 - 11:32 AM

Effective January 1, 2018 service will be discontinued at Williams Junction (WMJ). Trains 3 & 4 will no longer stop at Williams Junction. New Thruway service between Flagstaff and Williams(WMA) begins January 1, 2018, stopping at the Holiday Inn Express, NOT the Grand Canyon Railway(WMA). These changes will be reflected through the reservation channels beginning November 15th

Do we know whether the new Thruway service is meeting the trains from *both directions*?


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Posted 10 November 2017 - 11:40 AM

I am going to go investigate in the next few days. If it wasn’t for that spooky at night forest Road, this would undoubtedly be handled differently.


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I was a commuter railroad employee in NJ for many years until 2002, and have since been a tour guide at Grand Canyon National Park and Ketchikan, Alaska. Also, have been a National Park Volunteer at Hawaii Volcanoes and now Sunset Crater Volcano near my home. If not on Amtrak, also like long road trips, camping some of the time.

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Posted 13 November 2017 - 12:07 AM

I took a drive over to WILLIAMS today and located the Holiday Inn Express, which is a 2 year old Hotel and it is a few blocks walk to the Grand Canyon Railway. The gentleman at the desk knew nothing about the upcoming Amtrak arrangements, but gave me the manager’s card. Had a good dinner at Red Raven.


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Edited by greatcats, 13 November 2017 - 12:07 AM.

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Posted 13 November 2017 - 10:14 AM

So typical of Amtrak to make Major adjustments and those that will be directly affected ,ie the employees @ the Holiday Inn Express in Williams, know nothing about it!

Good thing the changes don't start for a few years eh, no wait....🤔

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Posted 13 November 2017 - 10:38 AM

But Jan 1 is still more than 6 weeks away. I am actually not surprised that a desk clerk at the Holiday Inn  does not know anything about it at this point. I am actually wondering what eaxct role anyone in the Holiday inn has in all this. Are they going to be handling bagagge and tickets? If not, and if it is merely a bus stopping in front of the hotel, what do they have to do?



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Posted 13 November 2017 - 10:43 AM

I agree that this is not surprising. I was just reporting on what I found yesterday. The Grand Canyon Railway Hotel I have observed is in touch with Flagstaff ticket office as to the number of passengers expected, but they have been the ones running the shuttle, but do not handle tickets or baggage.


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Posted 13 November 2017 - 10:49 AM

So typical of Amtrak to make Major adjustments and those that will be directly affected ,ie the employees @ the Holiday Inn Express in Williams, know nothing about it!

Good thing the changes don't start for a few years eh, no wait....


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Posted 13 November 2017 - 10:51 AM

It's not surprising at all that some random desk clerk doesn't know about the upcoming shuttle stop. I imagine the hotel will only be a place to pick up and drop off passengers, with the hotel employees having little to do with the operation, other than check in passengers who are staying at the hotel. 



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Posted 13 November 2017 - 12:01 PM

It's not surprising at all that some random desk clerk doesn't know about the upcoming shuttle stop. I imagine the hotel will only be a place to pick up and drop off passengers, with the hotel employees having little to do with the operation, other than check in passengers who are staying at the hotel.


I'm not surprised the clerk doesn't know, and presumably somebody will say something before the service begins, but if the ball is dropped I wouldn't want to depend on the good graces of an uninformed check-in clerk in the middle of the night during a Northern Arizona winter.


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