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#1 rile42


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Posted 05 September 2017 - 11:36 PM

I may have to change a trip I'm taking from Washington DC to Cleveland in a roomette.  At first, I was leaving DC on Dec. 31st.  The cost was $182.50 with a points redemption of 6659 points.  I did the math and found it was approximately 36.5 points per dollar which seems like the usual ratio when I check my constant travels on Amtrak.  The cost of the trip when I may have to switch to leaving DC on Jan. 2nd is $227.50, an increase of $45 which is reasonable as I know how it increases based on the number of people traveling. However, the amount of the point redemption is 16,422 which is a ratio of 72.2 points per dollar, twice the ratio of every trip I've taken since the new AGR settings started almost two years ago.  It seems absolutely ridiculous.  I called AGR and asked why it was like that.  The rep said something must be wrong after she compared other fares. Then she checked more and just said it was correct and she suggested I pay instead of redeem.  Has anyone noticed such an idiotic point increase which is not similar to the fare increase?


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Posted 06 September 2017 - 04:44 AM

Certain peak days will cost more points. Jan 2 was probably a blackout date in the old AGR days.

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Posted 06 September 2017 - 05:57 AM


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Posted 06 September 2017 - 04:54 PM

Certain peak days will cost more points. Jan 2 was probably a blackout date in the old AGR days.

It actually is a perk of the new system that you can now book these dates if you can pay up the premium in points versus the old system where these dates where just blacked out.

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Posted 07 September 2017 - 01:24 AM

Certain peak days will cost more points. Jan 2 was probably a blackout date in the old AGR days.


It was. IIRC. Blackouts were from Dec 23rd and the 24th, Dec 26th-31st, Jan 1st usually through the 3rd IIRC. I remember how little you could use AGR rewards around the holidays. It was basically good luck. Get your credit cards ready. 

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