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Brightline Railcars Any Reason They Can't Be Used By Amtrak?


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#61 norfolkwesternhenry

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Posted 14 August 2017 - 10:55 PM

I thought Amtrak was only using stainless steel cars, from the beginning they eliminated a bunch of fine equipment because it wasn't stainless steel. I don't think the brightline cars are stainless steel so I doubt Amtrak would take them, though IDK what their policy on state supported services is.

I'm pretty sure there isn't any rules on stainless or not, as the turbo trains and talgos exemplify.
Those are state supported though, so I'm betting Amtrak doesn't care as much

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Posted 15 August 2017 - 12:07 PM

I have been told by one of the Brightline representatives that the Brightline Cars are Stainless Steel with the livery applied as decal wraps. But what would they know. ;)

 

We have also heard from Amtrak that they are taking a serious look at the Brightline cars and they have seen no problem with the material used for their construction. The same Amtrak gentleman from a relatively high position within Amtrak also said that if and when Amtrak finds the money to purchase new cars, it is quite likely that Siemens will be a contender among several others.

 

But remember, there are several very credible passenger car producers in the world, and as long as Amtrak and FRA stop being anal about their car specifications, probably most of them would bid. So who will be selected is almost impossible to guess. One would of course hope that a dud contract like the one with CAF or Nippon Sharyo is not repeated.


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Posted 30 August 2017 - 06:13 AM

The Brightline cars would be perfectly good single-level coaches, and probably cafes.  Amtrak needs a lot of coaches.

 

I don't think anyone knows how to modify them to be dining cars or sleepers.  Hopefully the CAF order can get straightened out and extended.


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Posted 30 August 2017 - 07:00 AM

The Brightline cars would be perfectly good single-level coaches, and probably cafes.  Amtrak needs a lot of coaches.

 

I don't think anyone knows how to modify them to be dining cars or sleepers.  Hopefully the CAF order can get straightened out and extended.

I suspect Brightline and Siemens know how to build Cafes in that shell since Brightline has ordered on per set that will be used for the full service to Orlando.



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Posted 30 August 2017 - 07:49 AM

 

The Brightline cars would be perfectly good single-level coaches, and probably cafes.  Amtrak needs a lot of coaches.

 

I don't think anyone knows how to modify them to be dining cars or sleepers.  Hopefully the CAF order can get straightened out and extended.

I suspect Brightline and Siemens know how to build Cafes in that shell since Brightline has ordered on per set that will be used for the full service to Orlando.

 

 

Seeing Railjet has a cafetria car, (although albeit the concept is somewhat different to Amtrak's), I don't see a problem here.



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Posted 30 August 2017 - 08:14 AM

I believe Siemens has supplied/is supplying Russian Railways (RZD) with a sleeping car based on the Viaggio Classic.



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Posted 30 August 2017 - 10:25 AM

I believe Siemens has supplied/is supplying Russian Railways (RZD) with a sleeping car based on the Viaggio Classic.

That is true too.

 

Frankly, furnishing the interior for Sleeping accommodation should not be any problem at all. Car builders have been able to do that in myriads of car bodies over the last 100 and more years.



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Posted 31 August 2017 - 02:33 AM

I believe Siemens has supplied/is supplying Russian Railways (RZD) with a sleeping car based on the Viaggio Classic.

 

 

source - YouTube user Mark Smith - https://www.youtube....ro7U3yKsgCkvP1A



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Posted 25 September 2017 - 11:06 AM

Some pictures of Brightline cars that I snapped last Saturday at their West Palm Beach facility while on a tour with the FECRS folks as part of their Annual Convention in Miami.

 

https://www.facebook...&type=3



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Posted 01 October 2017 - 08:49 AM

Some pictures of Brightline cars that I snapped last Saturday at their West Palm Beach facility while on a tour with the FECRS folks as part of their Annual Convention in Miami.

 

https://www.facebook...&type=3

Nice shots!    Thanks for posting them.... :)


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