TE 21/22 Detour extended

I just learned that the detour between Taylor and Longview has been extended through the 29th of June. Guess the work east of Dallas is taking longer.

As long as they are done by my July 3rd Fort Worth boarding!!

Where did you get your info?

printman2000 said:

Where did you get your info?

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I hAven't seen it in writing from Amtrak but Station Agents and OBS/T&E Staff say its on!

From Amtrak and now it was posted on their site today.

Effective through June 29, 2017

Track work being performed by Union Pacific will affect Texas Eagle service through June 29, 2017, as follows:

Booking Sleeping AccommodationsOn the dates indicated below, customers making reservations for Texas Eagle sleeping accommodations to/from Mineola, Dallas, Fort Worth, Cleburne, McGregor and Temple, should speak with an Amtrak representative at 1-800-USA-RAIL (1-800-872-7245), or at your local Amtrak ticket office.

Service Changes through June 22, 2017 Train 21/421: Effective through June 22, 2017 - Busing Between Longview and TaylorThrough June 22, 2017, the following changes will be in effect:

• Trains 21/421 will detour between Longview and Taylor and will not make stops at Mineola, Dallas, Fort Worth, Cleburne, McGregor and Temple. Bus service will be provided to and from those stations.
• Service will not be provided to Taylor roundtrip from Mineola, Dallas, Fort Worth, Cleburne, McGregor, or Temple.
• Also, service will not be available between McGregor and Dallas, between Cleburne and Dallas and from Fort Worth to Dallas.

Train 21/421: Schedule Change through June 22, 2017Through June 22, 2017, Train 21/421 will depart Chicago 50 minutes later and operate 50 minutes later at all stations through its arrival at St. Louis. The train will depart St. Louis one hour later and operate one hour later at all stations through its arrival at San Antonio.

Service Changes through June 29, 2017 Train 22/422: Effective through June 29, 2017 - Busing Between Longview and Taylor

• Trains 22/422 will detour between Longview and Taylor and will not make stops at Mineola, Dallas, Fort Worth, Cleburne, McGregor and Temple. Bus service will be provided to and from those stations.
• Service will not be provided to Taylor roundtrip from Mineola, Dallas, Fort Worth, Cleburne, McGregor, or Temple.
• Also, service will not be available between McGregor and Dallas, between Cleburne and Dallas and from Fort Worth to Dallas.

Train 22/322/422 Departs Earlier through June 29, 2017Through June 29, 2017, Train 22/422 will depart one hour earlier at all stations from Dallas to St. Louis.

Effective through June 29, 2017 Track work being performed by Union Pacific will affect Texas Eagle service through June 29, 2017, as follows:

Booking Sleeping Accommodations On the dates indicated below, customers making reservations for Texas Eagle sleeping accommodations to/from Mineola, Dallas, Fort Worth, Cleburne, McGregor and Temple, should speak with an Amtrak representative at 1-800-USA-RAIL (1-800-872-7245), or at your local Amtrak ticket office.

Service Changes through June 22, 2017 Train 21/421: Effective through June 22, 2017 - Busing Between Longview and Taylor Through June 22, 2017, the following changes will be in effect:

• Trains 21/421 will detour between Longview and Taylor and will not make stops at Mineola, Dallas, Fort Worth, Cleburne, McGregor and Temple. Bus service will be provided to and from those stations.
• Service will not be provided to Taylor roundtrip from Mineola, Dallas, Fort Worth, Cleburne, McGregor, or Temple.
• Also, service will not be available between McGregor and Dallas, between Cleburne and Dallas and from Fort Worth to Dallas.

Train 21/421: Schedule Change through June 22, 2017 Through June 22, 2017, Train 21/421 will depart Chicago 50 minutes later and operate 50 minutes later at all stations through its arrival at St. Louis. The train will depart St. Louis one hour later and operate one hour later at all stations through its arrival at San Antonio.

Service Changes through June 29, 2017 Train 22/422: Effective through June 29, 2017 - Busing Between Longview and Taylor

• Trains 22/422 will detour between Longview and Taylor and will not make stops at Mineola, Dallas, Fort Worth, Cleburne, McGregor and Temple. Bus service will be provided to and from those stations.
• Service will not be provided to Taylor roundtrip from Mineola, Dallas, Fort Worth, Cleburne, McGregor, or Temple.
• Also, service will not be available between McGregor and Dallas, between Cleburne and Dallas and from Fort Worth to Dallas.

Train 22/322/422 Departs Earlier through June 29, 2017 Through June 29, 2017, Train 22/422 will depart one hour earlier at all stations from Dallas to St. Louis.

Why does it have the part about people who have sleeper bookings? Is that so they can refund part of the amount where you will be on a bus instead of your sleeper?

Anyone know how long the bus ride is between Fort Worth and Longview?

Still holding on to hope it will be done before our trip.

Question is if the bus from FTW will go direct or if they go as a group stopping in Dallas. It is approx 165 miles so maybe less than three hours unless the bus does all th stops.

When I was bustituted from Longview, they has separate busses to Dallas then Ft Worth and 1 nonstop to Ft Worth.

When I rode #22/#21 last week AUS-LVW-AUS there were 3 Buses at the Austin and Longview Stations.

In Austin there was a Non-Stop Express Bus to Ft. Worth, a "Local" for Temple,McGregor,Cleburne, Mineola and Dallas and the 3rd Bus was a backup Local if needed, but wasnt that day.

At Longview, there were also 3 Buses on the Platform, with the same Schedules in reverse. (Plus the usual Houston and Shreveport Thruways in the Parking Lot).

I asked the Agents about Sleeper Procedures and Refunds/Adjusted Fares are being done for pax booked to the stops on the Thruway Route.

Great info thank you.

We have a paid trip outbound and points trip in return. Surly they will be done before our return, but will they now refund points for something like this? I know under AGR 1 they would not.

printman2000 said:

Great info thank you.

We have a paid trip outbound and points trip in return. Surly they will be done before our return, but will they now refund points for something like this? I know under AGR 1 they would not.

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The chances of getting Point refunds under AGR2.0 are Slim and None.You will get a Goodwill Voucher(Negotiable) if you have to Bustitute on your return but Don't think the Reroute will last that long!( But the Revised-Temporary Schedule Might/I'd ask!)

As for the Paid trip, Amtrak will waive anyrefund penalties since its not your fault and give you your choice of a partial refund or a voucher for the Bustitution portion of the trip. ( ie meals missed, riding a bus instead of being in your room etc.)

Looks like both 21 & 22 are on the normal routes today. I am relieved. Departing Fort Worth on Monday.

printman2000 said:

Looks like both 21 & 22 are on the normal routes today. I am relieved. Departing Fort Worth on Monday.

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Good news and I guess you're treating yourself to a Late Birthday Present on the Eagles!

I do try to schedule our yearly vacation during my birthday. Had to be a little late this year but still good!

29th was the last day for 22 but 21 last day was the 22nd I think.

I was on 22 (28) so we arrive STL before 6 because of the detour, so they make us sit until we are almost 30min late for the normal schedule. One Conductor said they wanted to have the Diner finish Breakfast before the train left STL, which seems hard to believe. They did announce that no breakfast would be served upon leaving STL.

That's a change for #22/STL used to be Last Call for Breakfast for those boarding there since a Limited Menu Lunch is served after Springfield.

Generally #22 is "Out" of most food items upon reaching STL because the Eagle has to carry everything needed in the Diner for the Round Trip from CHI-SAS-CHI since there is no Commissary on this Route.

They were boarding 22 well before 7 since we connected the 322 Coach around 6AM. Last call on the train for passengers to leave the train was around 8:15 or 8:20 then we departed shortly after.