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#21 tp49

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Posted 24 June 2017 - 04:28 PM

 

 

And the San Joquin also covers a bunch of CSU campuses.

 

Don't forget UOP too in Stockton.

 

 

I was just getting started.  However, that's a really small school though.  I looked it up, and the enrollment at every CSU campus is larger except for the extremely specialized California Maritime Academy.

 

It's not as large by enrollment but it is the oldest university in California.  :cool:



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Posted 24 June 2017 - 05:16 PM

 

 

 

And the San Joquin also covers a bunch of CSU campuses.

 

Don't forget UOP too in Stockton.

 

 

I was just getting started.  However, that's a really small school though.  I looked it up, and the enrollment at every CSU campus is larger except for the extremely specialized California Maritime Academy.

 

It's not as large by enrollment but it is the oldest university in California.  :cool:

 

 

Santa Clara University is the oldest, although they didn't call themselves a University until later.

 

Also - UOP hasn't always been in Stockton either.  I've walked by their dentistry school (in San Francisco) and their law school is in Sacramento.  I don't quite get it, but I guess they don't want those to be in Stockton.


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Posted 25 June 2017 - 12:00 AM

Nobody wants to be in Stockton!🤔😄
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Posted 25 June 2017 - 02:20 AM

 

It's not as large by enrollment but it is the oldest university in California.  :cool:

 
Santa Clara University is the oldest, although they didn't call themselves a University until later.
 
Also - UOP hasn't always been in Stockton either.  I've walked by their dentistry school (in San Francisco) and their law school is in Sacramento.  I don't quite get it, but I guess they don't want those to be in Stockton.

 

 

UOP is the oldest chartered institution of higher education in the state but both were founded in the same year and both argue semantics about who's older (go figure.) The law school was an already existing independent school in Sacramento before UOP merged in the 60's. At least you can take Amtrak in some shape or form close to all three campuses (Stockton, Sac or SF.)
 

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Posted 25 June 2017 - 05:27 AM

Cornell U is mostly in Ithaca, but their Weill-Cornell Med School and School of ILR is in NYC Opening this year will be their new research institute  (jv with Technion of Israel) on Roosevelt Island.



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Posted 25 June 2017 - 10:51 AM

Yes there are a lot of colleges on Amtrak lines.  The problem there is not much Amtrak for those students to go home or aunt Millie.  Yes they can get to many big cities.  Every route added gives another possibility for students .



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Posted 25 June 2017 - 12:11 PM

Yes there are a lot of colleges on Amtrak lines.  The problem there is not much Amtrak for those students to go home or aunt Millie.  Yes they can get to many big cities.  Every route added gives another possibility for students .

 

Still - a lot of colleges and universities are in relatively isolated rural towns served by Amtrak.  Davis, California  is certainly part of the Sacramento metro area, but it's far enough that someone without a car will look seriously to Amtrak to get there or elsewhere on weekends.  In California, Amtrak has service to relatively isolated college towns like Arcata (Humboldt State), Chico, Merced, Bakersfield, San Luis Obispo, or Santa Cruz.

 

Amtrak even has thruway services that go specifically to college campuses, like Cal Poly SLO from the San Luis Obispo station or as a stop on a longer thruway route.

 

A lot of college campuses run shuttles between train stations and the campus.  Here's an example:

 

https://www.csuci.ed...Information.htm

 

WHO: All students, faculty and staff of CSU Channel Islands are welcome to enjoy the benefits of public transportation via the Vista Bus.WHEN: The Vista Bus Shuttle Service is available Monday through Friday 7:00am to 10:30pm. The bus is also scheduled Saturdays from 7:00am to 5:30pm to and from Oxnard and 7:30am to 5:20pm to and from the Camarillo Metrolink Station.

 

I live close enough to the Berkeley station to know that the campus doesn't have any specific service between the station and campus.  There is an AC Transit bus though.  However, Berkeley has so many transportation options that I don't think Amtrak is used that often by students.



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Posted 25 June 2017 - 04:50 PM

California with its extensive train and thruway bus systems is an exception.  Only the NEC can compare favorably/.



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Posted 25 June 2017 - 09:13 PM

California with its extensive train and thruway bus systems is an exception.  Only the NEC can compare favorably/.

 

California actually isn't all that densely populated.  I looked at all the UC and CSU campuses, and I think maybe a couple aren't really served by some sort of Amtrak service.  That includes some middle of nowhere places like Chico or Arcata.  And the place that don't have service include Northridge or Long Beach, which have access to Amtrak via other services like Metrolink.



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Posted 26 June 2017 - 02:49 PM

Cornell U is mostly in Ithaca, but their Weill-Cornell Med School and School of ILR is in NYC Opening this year will be their new research institute  (jv with Technion of Israel) on Roosevelt Island.

No, ILR's in Ithaca.  The Med School is in NYC on the grounds that it was impossible for doctors to properly learn medicine without experiencing the diseases of a big city.

 

The Roosevelt Island thing is such a terrible idea... oh well.


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Posted 06 July 2017 - 08:53 AM

Another town that has Amtrak service with a major university is Clemson. And the public transit will actually take you from the college to the station for free even at the horrible hours the train calls at Clemson it's still possible to use it. Even though be careful on the southbound using transit. And I can speak for its ridership it attracts more students (university traffic) then other people in the local area.

The most memorable passengers there is this couple one goes to University of Virginia and one attends Clemson. So once a month one goes south the next month one goes north. Amtrak we make long distance go the distance.
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Posted 06 July 2017 - 09:13 AM

Another town that has Amtrak service with a major university is Clemson. And the public transit will actually take you from the college to the station for free even at the horrible hours the train calls at Clemson it's still possible to use it. Even though be careful on the southbound using transit. And I can speak for its ridership it attracts more students (university traffic) then other people in the local area.

The most memorable passengers there is this couple one goes to University of Virginia and one attends Clemson. So once a month one goes south the next month one goes north. Amtrak we make long distance go the distance.

The Clemson station has been served by only a connecting bus from Greenville for the past year. Although trains will once again stop in Clemson, it is reliant on Norfolk Southern track work of which no completion date in known.
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Posted 06 July 2017 - 04:12 PM

The Virginia NER and LD trains connect to several college campuses.

 

Ashland (ASD) (one stop north of RVR) serves Randolph Macon College

Petersburg (PTB) is between Petersburg and Colonial Heights, serves Virginia State University.

Norfolk (NFK) connects to the HRT light rail, which directly serves Norfolk State University. HRT buses also connect to Old Dominion University.

Williamsburg (WBG) connects to WATA buses which serve the College of William and Mary.

Charlottesville (CVS) serves the University of Virginia.

Lynchburg (LYS) serves Lynchburg College and connects to a regional bus service serving Blacksburg - Virginia Tech.

Fredericksburg (FBG) serves the University of Mary Washington.



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Posted 12 July 2017 - 09:57 PM

Isn't South Bend college town?



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Posted 12 July 2017 - 11:04 PM

Isn't South Bend college town?

Notre Dame is in the town of Notre Dame, but it borders South Bend; I think it is close enough.
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Posted 13 July 2017 - 09:03 AM

Took me a while before I looked at this thread again, but as Neroden said, ILR is Ithaca based, the NYC location of ILR is an extension....



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Posted 13 July 2017 - 12:43 PM

Dear Old Nebraska U isn't too far from the new Lincoln station, beings that the campus and downtown are right next to each other. However, I haven't seen many students hanging around at midnight to board the Zephyr. Maybe if I came back at 3am there might be more going to Chicago. 


 
 
 
 
 

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Posted 13 July 2017 - 02:02 PM

Dear Old Nebraska U isn't too far from the new Lincoln station, beings that the campus and downtown are right next to each other. However, I haven't seen many students hanging around at midnight to board the Zephyr. Maybe if I came back at 3am there might be more going to Chicago. 

When I lived in Omaha in '71 and '72, the BN was sitll running football specials to Big Red's home games at Lincoln.... :cool:

 

I don't believe Amtrak had any involvement in that operation.....


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Posted 13 July 2017 - 03:38 PM

Our Zephyr in September 2016 was packed with Cornhuskers fans wearing red who boarded in the wee hours. It was hard to get a seat at breakfast!

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Posted 16 July 2017 - 10:23 PM

 

I would say any city with connecting rail service to Amtrak should count. My top choice college, Northwestern, is in Evanston, Illinois, a town without Amtrak service. However, there is frequent Metra and CTA rail service to downtown Chicago where they connect with a short walk to Amtrak. Glenview station is even closer, although there is no direct rail service between Evanston and Glenview, in addition to the fact that Glenview is a stop on only the Empire Builder and Hiawatha Service. Contrast this to other towns, where Amtrak may stop in the same city as the college but is not within walking distance and lacks effectiveness public transit if any exists whatsoever. One example of this is the University of Central Florida. Although it is in Orlando and relatively close to both the Orlando and Winter Park stations, there is not convenient public transit to either.

I have actually done this exact connection with Metra on the UP North Line from Evanston, IL to catch LSL 49 to Springfield, MA in June 2016. It was a pretty easy connection, though the walk from the Metra stop at Olgivie Transportation Center to Chicago Union Station is not very well marked.

 

One could always take the #208 Pace bus west to Golf/Waukegan to get off, then transfer to the next northbound #210 bus to get up to downtown Glenview. Or another idea is to take the #208 bus to Golf/Harlem, and then the #423 bus northbound till you got to Glenview. You could do vice versa to get back, though I'll note the #210 and #423 buses end early in the evening on weekdays, and that it has NO weekend service. I sometimes have on weekends(when desperate) taken the #208 Pace bus along Golf Road to Harlem, then walked the 25-30 minutes north into Glenview! Or vice versa back after getting off at Glenview, providing I walked to Golf/Harlem in time before the last eastbound #208 bus.

 

Since I know that strategy isn't for everyone, you might just be best(if it's a weekend/holiday, or if it's too late in the evening on a weekday) to request an Uber/Lyft car from Glenview, to get back to Evanston. Or vice versa, to get from Evanston up to Glenview.

 

 

 

Isn't South Bend college town?

Notre Dame is in the town of Notre Dame, but it borders South Bend; I think it is close enough.

 

University of Notre Dame is definitely within South Bend, IN. It is NOT it's own separate town from South Bend, not sure why you thought that. There are a few nearby municipalities outside of South Bend though, such as Roseland(this is a very tiny one most people forget about), Mishawaka, and Granger to name examples. And yes a lot of people do take the South Shore Line besides Amtrak to get to South Bend, since the fare is cheaper(vs. Amtrak) from Chicago.

 

Moving on, I'm surprised noone has mentioned all the Illinois colleges(public and private) that are served by Amtrak. Which include Knox College in Galesburg, Western Illinois University in Macomb, Illinois State University in Normal(not to forget Illinois Wesleyan in Bloomington), University of Illinois at Springfield(UIS) in Springfield, Olivet Nazarene University in Kankakee, University of Illinois(UIUC) in both Champaign and Urbana(IIRC, the college has buildings in both communities), Eastern Illinois University in Charleston(NOT technically right on Amtrak, but I've heard of students who get rides or bike between Charleston and Mattoon on a bike path between those communities to board the train there), and Southern Illinois University in Carbondale. Don't forget the Champaign-Urbana/Carbondale, and also the Galesburg/Quincy line have 2 trains in each direction a day, and 4 trains a day overall(not counting the long distance Southwest Chief and California Zephyr). For the Chicago-Saint Louis line(serving Bloomington-Normal and Springfield), there are 4 trains a day in each direction, and 8 overall(excluding the Texas Eagle, and from my personal experiences I'd be careful about riding that train since it often runs late).

 

The other colleges that jump to my mind in the Midwest served by Amtrak include Western Michigan University in Kalamazoo, Michigan State in East Lansing, University of Michigan in Ann Arbor, Marquette and University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee in Milwaukee, Viterbo University and University of Wisconsin-La Crosse in La Crosse, WI, Winona State University in Winona, MN, University of Minnesota and Macalester College not far from the St. Paul stop(plus I suspect more I'm forgetting), Purdue University in West Lafayette(you'd get off at Lafayette, and it's across the river), and IUPUI and Butler University in Indianapolis. Wouldn't be surprised if I'm forgetting some other Midwest colleges, but unfortunately some places have graveyard train arrival times(i.e. Cincinnati having both only a late at night Cardinal train and only 3 times a week, Fargo, ND having the daily Empire Builder come in both directions late at night, etc). I think Saint Cloud, MN has a Minnesota public college too(a la Winona), but the train times are early in the morning and late in the evening. Not as bad as Fargo's train times for the EB, but keep that in mind.


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