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#1 norfolkwesternhenry

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Posted 17 June 2017 - 07:58 AM

What exactly are the costs associated with owning and operating a diesel loco, especially F units and SD40-2/3 (my favorites). If I ever become the rich man I want to be, I want my own personal engine to pull my private train of five PV's.

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Posted 17 June 2017 - 12:00 PM

If you have to ask...you can't afford it! (Seriously.)

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Posted 17 June 2017 - 02:51 PM

Off the top of my head, you'd have to factor in the cost of storage, maintenance, fuel, certifications and inspections. You'd also have to factor in parts and labor.


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Posted 17 June 2017 - 04:43 PM

You might query several private/tourist railroads (if they will release that info).


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Posted 17 June 2017 - 11:08 PM

If you really want to go this route then in all seriousness you might be better off to consider purchasing your own short line railroad. You'll get shop employees with tools and training and knowledge of industry requirements who will become familiar with your PV equipment, a home road for paperwork and regulatory compliance as well as short-distance excursions whenever you feel like it, and if there's any decent potential for online traffic you might even come close to breaking even on the deal.


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Posted 18 June 2017 - 12:36 AM

In order to give at least a partial answer to your initial query, the Galveston Railroad Museum has a pair of operational and Amtrak-qualified F7 "Warbonnet" locomotives (not original ATSF equipment, but rebuilt and painted in that scheme under BNSF license). They are available for charter; the base rate is $6000 per day, per unit. You supply crew and fuel, plus whatever the railroad charges for you to operate over their tracks. There are also two Amtrak-certified coach cars and a buffet/dining car; they charter for $2000 per day per car. Again, you supply crew (and food for the diner) and make arrangements to have them hauled.

 

As with most things in life those charges are negotiable, especially for extended charter periods, but that is where the discussion will start.


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Posted 18 June 2017 - 02:39 PM

A dining car for 2k a day? I can get the Dearing for 2k a day

Empire Builder MSP-CHI (2) CHI-MSP (2) MSP-PDX (1) MSP-CBS (5.5 H late) (1) MKE-MSP (1) MSP-SEA (1) Coast Starlate PDX-EMY (1.5H late) (1) California Zephyr DEN-SLC (1H late) (1) Hiawatha CHI-MKE (1) NE Regional WAS-BAL (1) WAS-NYP (1) Acela Express BAL-WAS (1) BOS-WAS (1) Late Shore (Limited service) CHI-BOS (On Time) (1) Capitol Limited WAS-CHI (1) Texas Eagle SAS-CHI (1.5 HR late, 1 HR late) (2) CHI-SAS (1) (55 min early) Wolverine DET-DER-ARB-CHI (35 Min late) (1) Cascades SEA-VAC (1)
Non-Amtrak: VIA: Corridor Service Q.C.-Montreal-Ottawa-Toronto-Windsor (1) Canadian: VAC-Winnipeg 4.5 H late (1) D. C. metro, Montreal Metro, Toronto subway, Portland streetcars, BART, Metra, NYC subway, Boston subway, Twin cities Blue/Green line
train cars travelled in: Superliner: Coach, Sleeper, Diner, CCC, SSL. Amfleet: LD Café, Café/Business, coach. Viewliner: Sleeper, Diner. Acela: Café, Business, quiet car. Horizon: Coach. Talgo: coach, diner, café; non Amtrak: ex CP Via Canadian Manor cars, Park car, diner,sleeper, Skyline lounge. LRC trainset: coach (tilt de-activated)

No trees were killed to make this, but a number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced.

My apologies if I offend you, or seem stubborn, it's simply my nature. I am 14 after all, and my English isn't exactly perfect.


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Posted 18 June 2017 - 05:11 PM

A dining car for 2k a day? I can get the Dearing for 2k a day

 

As I said, they will negotiate. But that is where the negotiation starts.


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