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#81 cpotisch

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Posted 28 September 2018 - 05:59 PM

 

ehbowen:loved your First Flight with a Passenger story!

Mine was in a Cessna 172 with my Wife and Daughter around the Hill Country,Canyon Lake followed by a Landing @ San Antonio International (SAT) for Dinner.

I made a Greaser of a Landing @ SAT and also upon returning home to San Marcos Loman Field.( now a Shopping Mall!).

On the way to SAT I had to look out for T-38s zipping in/out of Randolph FAB and then Airline Traffic upon entering the San Antonio TCA.

Wonderful Memories are made from things like this!( My daughter is now 50 and she still talks about it!)


My first flight after getting my ticket was also memorable. A friend was with me when the tower at Lunken Airport in Cincinnati (affectionately known as “Sunken Lunken”), gave me a “clear for immediate take off” as I was holding just off the runway. I gave full throttle started to turn onto the runway and looked to my right and saw a green airplane right over the levee at the end of the runway! I immediately jammed both pedals down and cut the power and stood us on the nose wheel as the other plane roared past on the runway.

As I gathered myself together, the tower calmly advised me to “disregard 70 Zulu.”

I will say that I had a few choice words for the tower.

Clearly my training that the pilot is always in control and responsible, and that one always looks to assure that the way is clear before entering a runway, were reinforced by this experience!

Surprisingly, my friend still was willing to go up with me for a flight which from that point forward was pleasant!

 

Yikes! How do you think they managed to screw that one up so badly?  :unsure:


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Posted 28 September 2018 - 08:01 PM

You'd be surprised how many times @ busy contolled airports that this happens.


Sometimes the Left hand doesn't know what the right hand is doing @ ATC!😥
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Posted 29 September 2018 - 11:59 AM

William P. Hobby airport (HOU), where I learned to fly, is especially problematic in this regard. It was laid out in the 1930s; the four runways ALL cross at least two others, and the volume of traffic (it qualifies as a Class B Primary Airport on its own, although IAH across town is bigger and busier) is such that at times all four of them will be in service at the same time!

 

Prevailing winds in Houston are most frequently from the southeast, off the Gulf. When that is the case the tower will use the two parallels (13L & 13R) for arrivals and will use the 6000' runway 17 as supplemental space for jet departures for those aircraft whose performance makes it viable. However, the parallels are really too close for good separation...on my first night flight as a student landing on 12L a Southwest 737 on final for 12R got real nervous about us; "I don't see that Decathlon!" We had him, safely off to our right rear, but I can well believe that it's hard to pick out a single nav light and strobe in all that urban ground clutter.

 

When things really get busy and all four runways are in use, it's Katy Bar The Door. Fortunately we had some very good controllers...I spent quite a bit of time visiting the tower when I was a student and things were a lot looser from the security standpoint...but there are limits to what you can expect from even the best of them.


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Posted 29 September 2018 - 02:50 PM

 

ehbowen:loved your First Flight with a Passenger story!

Mine was in a Cessna 172 with my Wife and Daughter around the Hill Country,Canyon Lake followed by a Landing @ San Antonio International (SAT) for Dinner.

I made a Greaser of a Landing @ SAT and also upon returning home to San Marcos Loman Field.( now a Shopping Mall!).

On the way to SAT I had to look out for T-38s zipping in/out of Randolph FAB and then Airline Traffic upon entering the San Antonio TCA.

Wonderful Memories are made from things like this!( My daughter is now 50 and she still talks about it!)

My first flight after getting my ticket was also memorable. A friend was with me when the tower at Lunken Airport in Cincinnati (affectionately known as “Sunken Lunken”), gave me a “clear for immediate take off” as I was holding just off the runway. I gave full throttle started to turn onto the runway and looked to my right and saw a green airplane right over the levee at the end of the runway! I immediately jammed both pedals down and cut the power and stood us on the nose wheel as the other plane roared past on the runway.

As I gathered myself together, the tower calmly advised me to “disregard 70 Zulu.”

I will say that I had a few choice words for the tower.

Clearly my training that the pilot is always in control and responsible, and that one always looks to assure that the way is clear before entering a runway, were reinforced by this experience!

Surprisingly, my friend still was willing to go up with me for a flight which from that point forward was pleasant!
 
Yikes! How do you think they managed to screw that one up so badly?  :unsure:

I believe the tower lost the green plane as it crossed the levy and forgot that it hadn’t landed yet.

The “clear for immediate takeoff” clearly referred to another plane on a final approach which was farther out, which also landed before I received another “clear for takeoff!

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Posted 02 October 2018 - 08:51 PM

I shared a house in Ft. Lauderdale and commuted (JetBlue & Spirit) once-a-week to my job in DC. Did that for 2 years. Kept my "Florida" car permanently parked at FLL. Skied all over Europe. NOW...wouldn't catch me on a plane - lines, security, crowds, cramped seats... I still go to Orlando 8-times-a-year...but on the A/T. Haven't been to an airport in over 10 years and don't plan to start! LOL



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Posted 02 October 2018 - 10:30 PM

Twenty-something here—member of Amtrak: The Next Generation and conscientious objector to car ownership. I go to school 1,000 miles away from home, and the nature of my work requires traveling to gigs and training programs at population centers around the country. Time being money, and all that, usually non-airborne modes are out of the question. I’m not afraid of flying, but I’m tired of flying. That’s why I travel Amtrak, commuter rail, or bus whenever I can—usually for short corridor trips or on vacation time. Hope to live nearer my folks than at present so I can take the rails more cheaply and more often, but also near an airport hub so I can fly direct when ordered.
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