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#41 brianpmcdonnell17

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Posted 07 July 2017 - 02:25 PM

Do not put this poster into the disliking Superliners.  Do have issues with the upper bunks of SLs but coach and lounges are great.  Yes SLs are better for CNO and Capitol but it appears that getting any more Bi-levels before 5 -7 years will be nearly impossible.  N-S has really screwed the pooch. Amtrak needs cars now not then ! 
 
Granted the Amfleets are compared to narrow airplane tubes but the V-2 design certainly is much improvement.
 
But for the short term Amtrak needs much more capacity on just LD trains with no consideration to corridor and the NEC.  That means ASAP

The issue is there are currently no orders for either Amfleet or Superliner. If it was as simple as there was currently an add-on order for more Viewliners/Amfleets than I may agree. Since no order is currently being built, I think an ideal scenario would be to try and order Amfleets and Superliners at the same time from the same bidder for a potential discount.
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Posted 07 July 2017 - 02:25 PM

Do not put this poster into the disliking Superliners.  Do have issues with the upper bunks of SLs but coach and lounges are great.  Yes SLs are better for CNO and Capitol but it appears that getting any more Bi-levels before 5 -7 years will be nearly impossible.  N-S has really screwed the pooch. Amtrak needs cars now not then ! 

 

Granted the Amfleets are compared to narrow airplane tubes but the V-2 design certainly is much improvement.

 

But for the short term Amtrak needs much more capacity on just LD trains with no consideration to corridor and the NEC.  That means ASAP

 

Even if Nippon-Sharyo had successfully delivered the entire order by now, it wouldn't have done a thing for Amtrak's Superliner equipped long-distance trains.  These cars were for Midwest corridor operation; They would have freed up the cars currently in use there (primarily Horizon Fleet), granted, but single-level cars are already in shorter supply than Superliners.  Amtrak needs single-level cars much worse than it needs bi-level long-distance equipment.  

 

 

 

 

The issue is there are currently no orders for either Amfleet or Superliner. If it was as simple as there was currently an add-on order for more Viewliners/Amfleets than I may agree. Since no order is currently being built, I think an ideal scenario would be to try and order Amfleets and Superliners at the same time from the same bidder for a potential discount. 

 

Viewliners are currently being built.  Were the funding to magically appear, probably the most expedient solution would be an add-on order for Viewliner II lounges and coaches (high-mileage Amfleet II cars then shifted to the Northeast Corridor as an interim solution).  


Edited by A Voice, 07 July 2017 - 02:32 PM.


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Posted 07 July 2017 - 03:45 PM

Certainly both single and Bi-levels are needed.  Write your congress critters, We know that in higher travel times Amtrak is woefully short of surge equipment.






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