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#1 Guest_Ken Byrddogg_*

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Posted 17 March 2017 - 08:19 PM

I recently booked Bedroom A on a Superliner train gojng from NYC to Chicago. I was told this was smaller than the other bedrooms on the train because of it being at the end of the hall and having a cut out for passengers to turn the corner.

Are there any pictures of this room someone is willing to post? Are there any members who have had this room in their travels? Is it really really cramped? Should I avoid it? Would I be better off in the B,C,D,or E rooms?



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Posted 17 March 2017 - 08:43 PM

On which train will you be traveling?  Are you sure it is a superliner going from NYP to Chicago?  Could it be the Lakeshore Limited (a Viewliner)?


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Posted 17 March 2017 - 09:03 PM

Never used it but, if you are alone, it might not make a difference. Also, there may or not be other bedrooms available on your trip

 

Here are some diagrams...the Superliner sleeper is second from the top...

http://www.craigmash...ardiagrams.html


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Posted 17 March 2017 - 09:29 PM

Superliners can go through the tunnels to NYP, so if your ticket is NYP to CHI, the train is either the LSL or the Cardinal.  Both have Viewliner Sleeping Cars which only have 2 Bedrooms (A & B).   The Superliner has 5 Bedrooms on the upper level, and Room A on the SUperliners is smaller based on its configuration of the bathroom/shower.  


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Posted 17 March 2017 - 11:41 PM

You mean that Superlinerscan NOT go into Penn Station. (They are too tall to fit in the tunnels leading to Penn Station.) Both the Lake Shore Limited go directly from Chicago to New York City and use Viewliner (single level) sleepers. The Capitol Limited goes from Chicago to Washington (with a connecting train required to get to NYC) and uses Superliner (2 level) sleepers.

Only on Superliners is bedroom A smaller then the other bedrooms. On Viewliners' both bedrooms A and B are identical in size.
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Posted 18 March 2017 - 12:00 AM

On which train will you be traveling?  Are you sure it is a superliner going from NYP to Chicago?  Could it be the Lakeshore Limited (a Viewliner)?

Its the Capitol Limited and I misspoke. I'm on a Northeast Regional from NYC-WASH and then on the CL from WASH-CHI.



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Posted 18 March 2017 - 12:04 AM

You mean that Superlinerscan NOT go into Penn Station. (They are too tall to fit in the tunnels leading to Penn Station.) Both the Lake Shore Limited go directly from Chicago to New York City and use Viewliner (single level) sleepers. The Capitol Limited goes from Chicago to Washington (with a connecting train required to get to NYC) and uses Superliner (2 level) sleepers.

Only on Superliners is bedroom A smaller then the other bedrooms. On Viewliners' both bedrooms A and B are identical in size.

You're right. I misspoke. I'm looking at my itinerary now.



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Posted 18 March 2017 - 12:09 AM

On which train will you be traveling?  Are you sure it is a superliner going from NYP to Chicago?  Could it be the Lakeshore Limited (a Viewliner)?

Its the Capitol Limited going from WASH-CHI. I misspoke. I see the itinerary now.



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Posted 18 March 2017 - 12:16 AM

You mean that Superlinerscan NOT go into Penn Station. (They are too tall to fit in the tunnels leading to Penn Station.) Both the Lake Shore Limited go directly from Chicago to New York City and use Viewliner (single level) sleepers. The Capitol Limited goes from Chicago to Washington (with a connecting train required to get to NYC) and uses Superliner (2 level) sleepers.

Only on Superliners is bedroom A smaller then the other bedrooms. On Viewliners' both bedrooms A and B are identical in size.

 

Never used it but, if you are alone, it might not make a difference. Also, there may or not be other bedrooms available on your trip

 

Here are some diagrams...the Superliner sleeper is second from the top...

http://www.craigmash...ardiagrams.html

This is extremely helpful. Might you know of any photos or Youtube videos that tour the actual Bedroom A?



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Posted 18 March 2017 - 08:30 AM

I've been in Bedroom A on Superliners several times, and,while they are better than a Roomette,all of the other Bedrooms are better when it comes to space. ( when the Couch is in Nightime mode you can't get to the bathroom/shower door which faces,the opposite direction of the other Bedrooms.)

Other considerations are that A is over the trucks,hence it rides rougher, and that since A is next to the Sliding Door on the end of the Sleeper,you can hear the door open and close when passengers come and go from the next car.

I prefer Bedroom E since it is next to the Stairs, by the Coffee Kiosk and only has one Bedroom (D)next to it. (as does A which is the only Bedroom that can't be made into a Suite since there is no connecting door to Bedroom B.)
 
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Posted 18 March 2017 - 11:27 AM

If you can "modify" your reservation to one of the other bedrooms, I think you would be much happier.


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Posted 18 March 2017 - 01:00 PM

Other considerations are that A is over the trucks,hence it rides rougher, and that since A is next to the Sliding Door on the end of the Sleeper,you can hear the door open and close when passengers come and go from the next car.

Unless the end of a Superliner sleeper car the A bedroom is at - is the end of the train.
In which case the sliding door is disabled and would only be opened by the Conductor.

Edited by KmH, 18 March 2017 - 01:00 PM.

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Posted 18 March 2017 - 03:41 PM

If you can "modify" your reservation to one of the other bedrooms, I think you would be much happier.

Yeah, the Amtrak employee I spoke to said that "A" was the least popular of the bedrooms. Maybe I should change it.



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Posted 18 March 2017 - 07:01 PM

I like bedroom A if traveling alone. No noisy neighbors like the other bedrooms with connecting doors. And they can be noisy. Ive been in A-E and I do not notice the ride to be much rougher in A.  Yes its over the trucks. Nor do I notice the sliding door. And with couch in nighttime mode I have no trouble getting up and using restroom.  Ive done at least 20 coast to coast trips. A is smaller but as a single traveler you really don't notice it.



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Posted 18 March 2017 - 07:09 PM

I have traveled in a Superliner Bedroom A on the late and lamented Desert Wind.  It had plenty of room for two people.  Yes, the bathroom door was oriented differently than the other bedrooms, but that posed no issues.  Ride quality?  Saw no difference.  Being the last car on the train, I had the advantage of being able to have easy, quick access to the "train window" at the rear of the car.  This was one of my most memorable Amtrak trips.



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Posted 19 March 2017 - 06:43 PM

Rode the Empire Builder in Bedroom A last year.

 

Other than the orientation of the door to the bathroom (it's near the entry to the bedroom), there's one other difference: The space at the "chair" is significantly smaller than in the other four bedrooms. If you're traveling alone, it's probably not an issue, because you're going to spend time on the couch.

 

I sat in the chair all the way from Chicago to Portland, and though snug, it was fine (note: the chair *itself* is not smaller, but there's no room between the chair and the bathroom wall.

 

As mentioned above, I also saw no difference in the ride.

 

THe longer walk to the stairs and coffee was a non-issue for me. It's, what, 20 feet?


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Posted 19 March 2017 - 07:15 PM

Add me to the Bedroom A fan club.  The lack of a sliding partition between connecting bedrooms is the perk I like best.  One bad experience with noisy neighbors is one too many.  Soundproofing in A is the best of all possible superliner bedroom choices hands down.


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Posted 20 March 2017 - 09:09 AM

Rode the Empire Builder in Bedroom A last year.

 

Other than the orientation of the door to the bathroom (it's near the entry to the bedroom), there's one other difference: The space at the "chair" is significantly smaller than in the other four bedrooms. If you're traveling alone, it's probably not an issue, because you're going to spend time on the couch.

 

I sat in the chair all the way from Chicago to Portland, and though snug, it was fine (note: the chair *itself* is not smaller, but there's no room between the chair and the bathroom wall.

 

As mentioned above, I also saw no difference in the ride.

 

THe longer walk to the stairs and coffee was a non-issue for me. It's, what, 20 feet?

Thanks for your description. I'd like to see a photo of the room but I can't find any online.



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Posted 20 March 2017 - 09:43 AM

 

Thanks for your description. I'd like to see a photo of the room but I can't find any online.

 

This is NOT bedroom A, but another one (either C or E). Everything about A is the same other than the location of the door to the bathroom, and the space between the seat and the wall. Image the bathroom extending to where the mirror is. That's the space that you lose.

 

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Edited by George K, 20 March 2017 - 09:44 AM.

4/1/1955 - NYC "Pacemaker" - NYP to CHI 

9/14 - EB - CHI to PDX , CS - PDX to EMY, CZ - EMY to CHI

3/15 CONO - Round trip 

9/15 CL CHI to WAS, Acela WAS to BOS, LSL BOS to CHI

11/15 CONO - Round trip

5/16 EB - Round trip

12/16 CONO -  Round Trip

5/17 EB - Round trip

10/17 CONO - Round trip


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Posted 20 March 2017 - 09:48 AM

Thanks for your description. I'd like to see a photo of the room but I can't find any online.

This is NOT bedroom A, but another one (either C or E). Everything about A is the same other than the location of the door to the bathroom, and the space between the seat and the wall. Image the bathroom extending to where the mirror is. That's the space that you lose.
 
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Top notch reply George. Very clear and concise. If we ever get around to creating an Amtrak FAQ this post should be included.

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