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Posted 11 March 2017 - 09:12 AM

Both 5 and 6 went into service disruption last night, and the Winter Park Express for today (3/11) is cancelled. Something about a track closure? Any information?

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Posted 11 March 2017 - 10:14 AM

Both 5 and 6 went into service disruption last night, and the Winter Park Express for today (3/11) is cancelled. Something about a track closure? Any information?

 

Per Trainorders, a UP derailment about 36 miles west of Denver with between five and ten cars overturned.



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Posted 11 March 2017 - 10:24 AM

 

Both 5 and 6 went into service disruption last night, and the Winter Park Express for today (3/11) is cancelled. Something about a track closure? Any information?

 

Per Trainorders, a UP derailment about 36 miles west of Denver with between five and ten cars overturned.

 

Thanks for that information.  To say I'm suddenly very nervous is an understatement, since I head East tomorrow on #6 with a connection in Chicago.  Getting through to anyone at Amtrak is insanity, as wait times are in excess of an hour by phone.


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Posted 11 March 2017 - 02:06 PM

I don't have a Facebook account, but I guess there are photos of the UP derailment posted? Sounding like a mess, with the grounded train in a narrow canyon and potentially also inside tunnel 27... Inaccessible location. Another rumor puts the #5 being held in Denver on a detour through Wyoming, and the #6(3/10) will annul possibly at Grand Junction.

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Posted 11 March 2017 - 05:58 PM

If #6 will turn at Grand Junction, then in theory #5 should also turn in Denver. Even without the pictures, sounds like a perfect storm that can impact the CZ for several days, if not a week or so.


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Posted 11 March 2017 - 06:41 PM

Both trains are inching their way across Colorado though, so apparently the tracks are passable, or at least expected to be so.

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Posted 11 March 2017 - 07:08 PM

Both trains are inching their way across Colorado though, so apparently the tracks are passable, or at least expected to be so.

Aye, it would appear so.  #5 is now past the derailment location and chugging west at 30 mph, but nearly 7 hours down.  Interestingly, #5 (3/9) is also running exceptionally late, at 7.5 hours late into Reno right now.  No service disruption, but it lost nearly 7 hours of running time in Colorado, and made it through the Rockies before the UP derailment.  Since that will turn to be my #6 (3/12) tomorrow, I fully anticipate both a dirty train and a surly/zero-cares-given OBS crew for the next two and a half days.  :help:


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Posted 12 March 2017 - 02:42 AM

Your #6 will get thru, either at a somewhat slower pace past the derailment site in Colorado, or at a FASTER pace by detouring between Salt Lake City and Denver via Wyoming. And your crews will not likely be surly.

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Posted 12 March 2017 - 10:37 AM

Ski train made it thru arriving WPR 5 minutes early.

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Posted 12 March 2017 - 12:08 PM

#6 (3/12) is not starting off well. An hour late, and has not left Emeryville for some reason.

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Posted 12 March 2017 - 01:25 PM

#6 (3/12) is not starting off well. An hour late, and has not left Emeryville for some reason.

 

Is is extremely likely that is due to a late turn of equipment and crews off 5(9).


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Posted 14 March 2017 - 12:11 AM

#6 is currently running 4 hours late through northern NV. A friend of mine is on the train and said there was a medical emergency (sadly the passenger died).



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Posted 17 March 2017 - 01:02 PM

Okay. snow is melting at a fast rate, and Northern Nevada is under Flood Warning...again. Anyone knows how this will affect the CZ for the upcoming week or two?


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Posted 17 March 2017 - 08:08 PM

Don't know about the flooding, but Amtrak 6(17) was five hours late departing Emeryville today.  Unusual in that yesterday's CZ 5 arrived on time at 4:01 PM.  Anyone know what happened?



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Posted 18 March 2017 - 03:34 PM

I read on trainorders that the baggage car derailed during switching moves for inbound 5 that became delayed 6.

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Posted 20 March 2017 - 02:33 PM

Update on flooding in Northern Nevada: The Humboldt River at Winnemucca-Comus is expected to get to major flooding by Wed, and Battle Mountain is also apporaching major flooding, although at a slower rate. Fingers crossed as to how the Zephyr might be affected by this snowmelt flooding, this could get interesting.


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Posted 22 March 2017 - 02:10 PM

Things were running smoothly enough for the Westbound #5 to roll into Truckee this morning at 9:32am.

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Posted 22 March 2017 - 02:32 PM

Interesting that the Humboldt River is flooding first at the downstream location (Winnemucca) before upstream at Battle Mtn. Must be lots of snow melting in between these two hamlets.




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