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Posted 28 February 2017 - 10:30 PM

This train is now almost 12 hours late.

No doubt it will have a late departure.

 

 ...While it could be mechanical, it is also possible that the delay was caused by some freight interference.

Freight interference is the most likely culprit. Since the Feather River route is still closed (if I am right), UP has to divert its freight traffic, resulting in heavier traffic.


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Posted 28 February 2017 - 10:34 PM

Also, note to moderators: Since this discussion has turned into a general delays and disruption regarding the CZ in general, and is no longer about the specific disruption about the CZ being annulled in SLC, it might be a good idea to change the title. What do you think about changing the title?


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Posted 01 March 2017 - 12:16 AM

 

This train is now almost 12 hours late.

No doubt it will have a late departure.

 

 ...While it could be mechanical, it is also possible that the delay was caused by some freight interference.

Freight interference is the most likely culprit. Since the Feather River route is still closed (if I am right), UP has to divert its freight traffic, resulting in heavier traffic.

 

 

But the Amtrak train gets to "cut in" to any freight line," right??


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Posted 01 March 2017 - 12:17 AM

 

 

This train is now almost 12 hours late.

No doubt it will have a late departure.

 

 ...While it could be mechanical, it is also possible that the delay was caused by some freight interference.

Freight interference is the most likely culprit. Since the Feather River route is still closed (if I am right), UP has to divert its freight traffic, resulting in heavier traffic.

 

 

But the Amtrak train gets to "cut in" to any freight line," right??

 

What if there's too much freight traffic? That might be the case.


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Posted 01 March 2017 - 01:23 AM

 

This train is now almost 12 hours late.

No doubt it will have a late departure.
 

 ...While it could be mechanical, it is also possible that the delay was caused by some freight interference.

Freight interference is the most likely culprit. Since the Feather River route is still closed (if I am right), UP has to divert its freight traffic, resulting in heavier traffic.
 
 
But the Amtrak train gets to "cut in" to any freight line," right??
Not quite, the Amtrak train still has to obey the line side signal system, in this case controlled out of Omaha, NE, and the freight dispatcher decides who goes when and where.

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Posted 01 March 2017 - 08:16 AM

I wonder if they are turning the train at Sacramento.  It looks like 5 never made it to Davis.



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Posted 01 March 2017 - 09:16 AM

Looks like #6 is going to depart over 5 hours late from Emeryville today.



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Posted 01 March 2017 - 09:27 AM

Also, note to moderators: Since this discussion has turned into a general delays and disruption regarding the CZ in general, and is no longer about the specific disruption about the CZ being annulled in SLC, it might be a good idea to change the title. What do you think about changing the title?

 

I like it. Done.



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Posted 01 March 2017 - 09:53 AM

Arrived Emeryville 6:04 am 13'54" late. Due to go east at 2:30 pm. They must have served the gourmet beef stew dinner last night. Yum?
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Posted 01 March 2017 - 11:10 AM

My brother is boarding #6 at Roseville today.  He is going to ask the OBS what happened yesterday.



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Posted 01 March 2017 - 12:02 PM

Actually I did just see some info on this.  There was a traction motor failure and a UP freight locomotive was added as the lead unit.



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Posted 01 March 2017 - 01:21 PM

#6 out of Emeryville is cancelled today. We received a call from Amtrak at 6 a.m. this morning. We were able to book tomorrow so keeping fingers crossed!

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Posted 01 March 2017 - 01:28 PM

I wonder if they are turning the train at Sacramento.  It looks like 5 never made it to Davis.

Since Davis is a "detraining-only" stop for #5, if there are no passengers in the manifest scheduled to detrain there, #5 will not stop, and it might not get a time posted on the Amtrak website.


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Posted 01 March 2017 - 01:34 PM

#6 out of Emeryville is cancelled today. We received a call from Amtrak at 6 a.m. this morning. We were able to book tomorrow so keeping fingers crossed!

 

 

Amtrak website says that #6 is scheduled to leave Emeryville today at 2:30 PM, instead of being cancelled outright.   That makes more sense, since the train could make up several of those hours enroute to Chicago, plus it avoids the problem of having TWO sets of CZ equipment sitting in the West Oakland yard tonight.   The very late departure today is because yesterday's #5 arrived Emeryville nearly 14 hours late at 6 AM this morning.   Turning the train in 8.5 hours for the eastbound journey provides time for cleaning and turning the train, and providing the minimum amount of federally-mandated rest time for the onboard service staff.



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Posted 01 March 2017 - 01:50 PM

Amtrak told us there would be no service to our final destination today. I saw that it said 2:30 departure but since we already extended our hotel stay we decided to leave well enough alone. Amtrak rescheduled us for tomorrow. Fingers crossed!

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Posted 01 March 2017 - 02:10 PM

Are there any flood updates from Nevada yet?


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Posted 01 March 2017 - 02:28 PM

Are there any flood updates from Nevada yet?

 

The Union Pacific line between Wells NV and Ogden UT was restored to service February 21. This was the line most severely damaged by the Nevada dam failure.  The only remaining Union Pacific route out of service is the Feather River line between Oroville and Portola CA.



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Posted 01 March 2017 - 02:36 PM

Amtrak told us there would be no service to our final destination today. I saw that it said 2:30 departure but since we already extended our hotel stay we decided to leave well enough alone. Amtrak rescheduled us for tomorrow. Fingers crossed!

 

That's kinda weird.  What was your final destination?


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Posted 01 March 2017 - 02:36 PM

Arrived Emeryville 6:04 am 13'54" late. Due to go east at 2:30 pm. They must have served the gourmet beef stew dinner last night. Yum?

 



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Posted 01 March 2017 - 02:59 PM

 

#6 out of Emeryville is cancelled today. We received a call from Amtrak at 6 a.m. this morning. We were able to book tomorrow so keeping fingers crossed!

 

 

Amtrak website says that #6 is scheduled to leave Emeryville today at 2:30 PM, instead of being cancelled outright.   That makes more sense, since the train could make up several of those hours enroute to Chicago, plus it avoids the problem of having TWO sets of CZ equipment sitting in the West Oakland yard tonight.   The very late departure today is because yesterday's #5 arrived Emeryville nearly 14 hours late at 6 AM this morning.   Turning the train in 8.5 hours for the eastbound journey provides time for cleaning and turning the train, and providing the minimum amount of federally-mandated rest time for the onboard service staff.

 

 

This makes sense.

 

(Amtrak cancelling User38's reservation for today does not)






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