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#21 Lonestar648

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Posted 13 February 2017 - 01:13 AM

Not only would you have the capital expense for five consists but there is the subsidizing the outsourcing of services that you don't want Amtrak to provide.  Problem you will find is that businesses will find much more lucrative opportunities than the limited maximum revenue possibility on this train.  The bi-level sleepers have the opportunity for more revenue with 14 Roomettes verses 12 on the Viewliner, and 5 Bedrooms verses 2 on the Viewliner, and a family bedroom with none on the Viewliner.  Thats 44 passengers on the Superliner verses 30 on the single level Viewliner. So if you made the EB a single level train, to cover the current three Sleeping Cars you would require five single level sleeping cars. What about the Dining Cars, are you going with a Kitchen car and the Dining Car in order to have a decent kitchen to attract maybe a few food operators? Now the length of the train becomes an issue for many of the smaller station platforms.  Having the Conductors having to coordinate three or four stops delays the train and the desired efficiency.


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Posted 15 March 2017 - 07:33 PM

The future may be that Amtrak will start leasing rolling stock and not buying it. In this case equipment can be replaced and added at a lower cost. In the next year we should be able to see the direction that the current administration in Washington will take on passenger rail.



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Posted 15 March 2017 - 08:28 PM

The future may be that Amtrak will start leasing rolling stock and not buying it. In this case equipment can be replaced and added at a lower cost. In the next year we should be able to see the direction that the current administration in Washington will take on passenger rail.

What company is going to build this rolling stock that would replace Amtrak'so current aging equipment.

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Posted 15 March 2017 - 10:45 PM

The future may be that Amtrak will start leasing rolling stock and not buying it. In this case equipment can be replaced and added at a lower cost. In the next year we should be able to see the direction that the current administration in Washington will take on passenger rail.

 

Amtrak has been leasing much of its equipment for about the last twenty years.  The Acela train sets, HHP-8 locomotives, Superliner II cars, and certain of the P-42 diesels are (or were) under lease agreements; The HHP-8's are only sitting in storage because the lease terms haven't expired yet.  



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Posted 20 March 2017 - 06:38 PM

Leasing is consistently more expensive than buying.  How do you think the lessors make their money?

 

The only times you lease are (a) when you don't plan to use the equipment for its full useful lifespan, so you lease for less than the full term -- an operating lease in the upcoming GAAP standards -- or (b) when you don't have enough cash to buy, a financing lease in the upcoming GAAP standards.


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