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#21 Lonestar648

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Posted 27 January 2017 - 12:18 PM

The big question now is what Federal money will be made available for improving the rail infrastructure?  Based on our new President's promise of improving this county's decaying infrastructure, there should be incentives for the freight railroads to improve their mainlines (i.e. Class 4 to Class 5).  The Republican State Legislatures and Governors across the country may change their attitude.


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Posted 15 March 2017 - 07:49 PM

The problem with improving service from CHI to Washington and Oregon, is that we have allowed 2 of the 3 rail routes that accessed those states to be abandoned or discontinued.  At one time there were three direct routes; the Empire Builder (Great Northern), the Olympic Hiawatha ( Milwaukee Road) and the North Coast Ltd (Northern Pacific). Today its the Empire Builder only and its not on the original route. Some sections of the other two routes remain but much has been abandoned especially through Montana, Idaho and Washington.  Point is that with only one route, service will not see much of an improvement and there is probably insufficient demand to restore another route.. .


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Posted 15 March 2017 - 08:11 PM

The problem with improving service from CHI to Washington and Oregon, is that we have allowed 2 of the 3 rail routes that accessed those states to be abandoned or discontinued.  At one time there were three direct routes; the Empire Builder (Great Northern), the Olympic Hiawatha ( Milwaukee Road) and the North Coast Ltd (Northern Pacific). Today its the Empire Builder only and its not on the original route. Some sections of the other two routes remain but much has been abandoned especially through Montana, Idaho and Washington.  Point is that with only one route, service will not see much of an improvement and there is probably insufficient demand to restore another route.. .

That doesn't tell the entire story, as the GN and NP both had secondary streamlined trains that were used for both coach and sleeper service, as well as mail and express traffic.

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Posted 16 March 2017 - 11:03 AM

 

The problem with improving service from CHI to Washington and Oregon, is that we have allowed 2 of the 3 rail routes that accessed those states to be abandoned or discontinued.  At one time there were three direct routes; the Empire Builder (Great Northern), the Olympic Hiawatha ( Milwaukee Road) and the North Coast Ltd (Northern Pacific). Today its the Empire Builder only and its not on the original route. Some sections of the other two routes remain but much has been abandoned especially through Montana, Idaho and Washington.  Point is that with only one route, service will not see much of an improvement and there is probably insufficient demand to restore another route.. .

That doesn't tell the entire story, as the GN and NP both had secondary streamlined trains that were used for both coach and sleeper service, as well as mail and express traffic.

 

OK we can add that. I might also add mostly just for info purposes that the NP North Coast route through Boseman pass in Montana is still in use.. 



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Posted 16 March 2017 - 11:21 AM

I might also add mostly just for info purposes that the NP North Coast route through Boseman pass in Montana is still in use..

Operated by Montana Rail Link. The original route via Homestake Pass through Butte is out of service. The current MRL route runs through Helena and the Mullan Pass, which was an NP secondary route used mostly by freight and the Mainstreeter.






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