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Viewliner II - Part 2 - Production and Delivery


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#1841 PVD

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Posted 04 May 2018 - 11:28 AM

Keep in mind that adding a full sleeper may add more rooms, but it also adds an additional staff person. getting rooms back for sale in revenue cars does not. Also, a business wants to add supply primarily to maximize yield, too great a supply can drive down prices to the point that you may be carrying more passengers, but not making more money. 



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Posted 04 May 2018 - 12:23 PM

I have to admit that part of my rationale for more sleeping cars is reflected in your comment. If there is a larger supply of sleeping cars, I have a better chance of getting low bucket rates when I want to travel. But it isn't all bad, given how relatively quickly sleepers sell up to top bucket most of the time (they don't seem to sell out as often but they do get close) it seems like Amtrak could use quite a few more sleepers while still maintaining a good return on investment. And I can get my Empire Builder trip at low bucket or 2nd low bucket. It is all good!

I think if the sleeper supply remains too high, they would just put a sleeper onto a siding for a week or two and get both cleaning and maintenance done.

 

Keep in mind that adding a full sleeper may add more rooms, but it also adds an additional staff person. getting rooms back for sale in revenue cars does not. Also, a business wants to add supply primarily to maximize yield, too great a supply can drive down prices to the point that you may be carrying more passengers, but not making more money. 


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Posted 04 May 2018 - 02:42 PM

It is also part of why I usually end up on a NER to the CL to get to Chicago for a connecting leg. LSL is almost always higher, and often not available.



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Posted 06 May 2018 - 04:58 PM

NASHVILLE is headed from Washington to Boston tonight/Monday AM. Let the Sleeper Lounge preparations begin.

Edited by KnightRail, 06 May 2018 - 08:55 PM.


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Posted 06 May 2018 - 05:01 PM

Training for Southampton Street folks for handling the LSL?

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Posted 06 May 2018 - 05:10 PM

Training for Southampton Street folks for handling the LSL?

Can't be.  We all know that the LSL will never get a new diner.  ;p

 

Of course, it will be just in time for the switch from diner to sleeper lounge.  



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Posted 08 May 2018 - 10:19 PM

Training for Southampton Street folks for handling the LSL?

 

Indeed. It will be for training. Once they are done with it, one will go to CHI. When the LSL reroute occurs, there will be 5 committed to the operation. 3 in the sets, with a protect in CHI and BOS. NOL, NYP and HIA will keep their protects as well.


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Posted 09 May 2018 - 03:01 PM

Discussion of the Lake Shore Limited, additional cars, and platform lengths has been split into a new topic: Lake Shore Limited and Train Length Issues



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Posted 09 May 2018 - 04:57 PM

 

Training for Southampton Street folks for handling the LSL?

 
Indeed. It will be for training. Once they are done with it, one will go to CHI. When the LSL reroute occurs, there will be 5 committed to the operation. 3 in the sets, with a protect in CHI and BOS. NOL, NYP and HIA will keep their protects as well.

That can’t be true, Trainz Magazine says there are 57 Viewliner Diners sitting in Miami rusting away.


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Posted 20 May 2018 - 08:11 AM

Ok, so last month I said that the three diners should be ready by May 20th. Does anyone know if they are?


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Posted 20 May 2018 - 08:53 AM

Ok, so last month I said that the three diners should be ready by May 20th. Does anyone know if they are?

If they were, TR7 would have hinted about it, right?  



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Posted 20 May 2018 - 10:27 AM

Not a new batch. The ones delivered last month: 68020-22.

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Posted 20 May 2018 - 10:35 AM

Not a new batch. The ones delivered last month: 68020-22.

In that case, TR7 or AmtrakLKL will let us know when any of them are released in the wild.  These guys/gals are dependable, so no need to keep asking.


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Posted 20 May 2018 - 10:39 AM

Mom! Are we there yet? :giggle:


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Posted 20 May 2018 - 10:41 AM

Ok, so last month I said that the three diners should be ready by May 20th. Does anyone know if they are?

 

 

Not a new batch. The ones delivered last month: 68020-22.

 

Two of them deadheaded on 98(19).


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Posted 20 May 2018 - 10:45 AM

Ok, so last month I said that the three diners should be ready by May 20th. Does anyone know if they are?

 
 

Not a new batch. The ones delivered last month: 68020-22.

 
Two of them deadheaded on 98(19).
So they’re at Sunnyside now? And are ready for service?

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Posted 20 May 2018 - 12:33 PM

Ok, so last month I said that the three diners should be ready by May 20th. Does anyone know if they are?

 
 

Not a new batch. The ones delivered last month: 68020-22.

 
Two of them deadheaded on 98(19).
So they’re at Sunnyside now? And are ready for service?
Or heading to Chicago for training.
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Posted 20 May 2018 - 12:49 PM

 

 

 

Ok, so last month I said that the three diners should be ready by May 20th. Does anyone know if they are?

 
 

Not a new batch. The ones delivered last month: 68020-22.

 
Two of them deadheaded on 98(19).
So they’re at Sunnyside now? And are ready for service?
Or heading to Chicago for training.

 

 

They are not in SSYD. I think one is headed for CHI as Blue mentioned and the other is heading for BOS.


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Posted 20 May 2018 - 05:55 PM

Do you think they'll bother marking the Sleeper Lounges as such? Or is that not worth the trouble and the cars will still be marked as diners?


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Posted 20 May 2018 - 08:17 PM

Do you think they'll bother marking the Sleeper Lounges as such? Or is that not worth the trouble and the cars will still be marked as diners?

Would seem to me it would make sense not to because then the cars are interchangeable with the diners on the SM and Crescent (presuming the same thing doesn't happen to those two trains also of course.)


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