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Viewliner II - Part 2 - Production and Delivery


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#1201 west point

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Posted 07 December 2017 - 10:52 PM

What exactly is the model of trucks on the V-2s ? Is it the same as V-1s ?



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Posted 08 December 2017 - 08:11 AM

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Posted 08 December 2017 - 08:25 AM

Kenworth W900Ls.

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What exactly is the model of trucks on the V-2s ? Is it the same as V-1s ?

I forget the model, but I believe they are slightly different than the V-Is, with less rolling resistance at high speeds (125 mph), and better brakes. I dont know beyond that.

Edited by cpotisch, 08 December 2017 - 08:26 AM.

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Posted 08 December 2017 - 08:36 AM


What exactly is the model of trucks on the V-2s ? Is it the same as V-1s ?

GSI Horizon trucks, VL IIs have the same trucks as VL Is, except for heftier springs on the trucks under the Baggage cars.

 

The speed difference has mostly to do with wheel profile and brake setup. And the Baggage Cars have heftier springs that are colored Red.
 
And of course there is a big C stamped on the truck components for "Columbus", instead of the traditional B for "Buckeye". I don't know what is stamped on the post-Columbus parts. Or whether any such are used in any of the VL IIs. My understanding is that all the castings for the trucks for the VL II order were delivered before Columbus went under. Post Columbus castings for the same GSI trucks came out as a fix for problems they had in the Silverliner V order AFAIR. I don't know if any of those castings were ever used in any VL II GSI trucks.


Edited by jis, 12 December 2017 - 11:14 AM.


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Posted 12 December 2017 - 09:57 AM

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Posted 12 December 2017 - 10:18 AM

Delivered_Diners!=interesting
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Posted 12 December 2017 - 10:36 AM

there is photo on another Amtrak group of 2 new diners leaving Elmira this AM.   which line is getting them?



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Posted 12 December 2017 - 11:35 AM

Today (Dec 12) 68014 (Jackson) and 68015 (Lansing) were picked up by NS Special train #975 at Elmira Heights, NY.  They are scheduled to move on SILVER METEOR #97 to Miami for prepping, probably leaving NY on the 13th.

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Posted 12 December 2017 - 11:56 AM

Heritage 8505 was on 20(8) which I saw arrive into Washington Union Station on the 9th. So we are still not at all VL II + 8400 always state.

 

97(9) had 8400 BTW. I was on that train.



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Posted 12 December 2017 - 12:15 PM

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Posted Today, 11:35 AM

Today (Dec 12) 68014 (Jackson) and 68015 (Lansing) were picked up by NS Special train #975 at Elmira Heights, NY.  They are scheduled to move on SILVER METEOR #97 to Miami for prepping, probably leaving NY on the 13th.

Andy

 

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Andy, I have reposted your good news to this thread. The other thread is supposed to be a running total, not the spot for news flashes. LOL. But this is such good news it doesn't hurt to post it twice! Thanks for the details.

 

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Is it just me, or does CAF seem to be getting a little speed up, with shorter intervals between deliveries? Nah, that would be too good to be true. 



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Posted 12 December 2017 - 12:17 PM

Diners aren’t assigned to a specific line. Like every other diner it’ll probably start on 97/98 so that it can get back to FL if needed, then enter the general rotation.
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Posted 12 December 2017 - 12:23 PM

The plan was to get to two per month. They seem to have finally achieved that. So it will hopefully be two per month regularly now. That still takes us almost past mid year before all the Diners are delivered.



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Posted 12 December 2017 - 08:36 PM

There will probably be a break between that and the ten bag-dorms... which is going to take us into 2019 before we see the sleepers...

 

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Posted 13 December 2017 - 12:13 AM

My math has the 2 on October 31 and 2 on the 12th = 6 weeks.  still not  fast enough.



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Posted 13 December 2017 - 11:40 AM

On Tues. Dec. 12 Jackson 68014 and Lansing 68015 were picked up at Elmira Heights, NY by an Amtrak crew

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Posted 13 December 2017 - 01:40 PM

So, if this cadence continues, it will be well into third or fourth quarter of '18 before all the Diners are in.



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Posted 13 December 2017 - 03:40 PM

Not only that, but if my aunt had wheels, shed be a tea cart. Actually, DPA likes to say a bus, but I think that comes from the fact that a bus is semi-synonymous with tea cart, hence bussing tables and busboys.

Edited by Green Maned Lion, 13 December 2017 - 03:42 PM.

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Posted 13 December 2017 - 07:39 PM

 They are scheduled to move on SILVER METEOR #97 to Miami for prepping, probably leaving NY on the 13th.

Andy

 

 

Ummm...probably not since 97(13) was scheduled to operate with 5 private cars. I hope no one was not out there looking for them since they were "probably" scheduled to hold a day and leave on the 14th.


Edited by Thirdrail7, 13 December 2017 - 07:40 PM.

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Posted 13 December 2017 - 08:15 PM

Oh, come on, the Silver Meteor can handle its 10 usual cars, 1 seasonal car, 5 private cars and two deadheading cars. :-) Nice flat route, really long platforms, what's the problem? We need more 18-car trains running. :-)

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Posted 14 December 2017 - 12:23 AM

 They are scheduled to move on SILVER METEOR #97 to Miami for prepping, probably leaving NY on the 13th.
Andy

 
 
Ummm...probably not since 97(13) was scheduled to operate with 5 private cars. I hope no one was not out there looking for them since they were "probably" scheduled to hold a day and leave on the 14th.

Even if I was I’d gladly take 5 PV’s over crappy diners.


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