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#621 AmtrakBlue

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Posted 13 September 2017 - 08:36 AM

I'm guessing Columbus will be on 97(15). Unless Hialeah isn't ready for it.


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2012: Apr: WIL=>WAS=>WIL (NER) // May(NTD): WIL=>PHL=>WIL (NER) / PHL=>PAO=>PHL (Keystone) // Aug: WIL=>WAS (NER) / BWI=>WIL (NER) // Oct(Gathering): PHL=>WIL (NER) / PHL=>HAR=>PHL (Keystone) / SEPTA, NJT, PATCO, River Line, Princeton Dinky
2013: May(NTD): WIL=>WAS=>WIL (NER)  // Oct (Gathering): WIL=>CHI (Card) / CHI=>MKE=>GLN=>CHI() / CHI=>JOL=>CHI () / CHI=>WIL(CL=>NER) / CTA, Metra. SEPTA (WIL=>NRK) // Nov:  PHL=>PHL (Autumn Express) 
2014: May(NTD):  WIL=>PHL=>WIL(NER) // May:  WIL=>BOS=>WIL(NER) day trip

2014: Oct(Gathering): WIL=>NYP=>TOL(pd-NER=>LSL) / TOL=>CHI=>LAX=>EMY(pts-LSL=>SWC=>CS) / EMY=>CHI=>TOL (pts-CZ-CL) / TOL=>WAS=>WIL(pd-CL=>NER)
2015: May: CHI=>CIN(pd-Card) / CIN=>WIL(pts Card)
2015;  Oct(Gathering):  WIL=>WAS(Acela) / ALX=>WAS(NER) / WAS=>BAL(Acela) / WAS=>WIL(NER)

2016: Mar: WIL=>WAS=>WIL (NER)  // Oct:  WIL=>NYP=>NYP=>WIL (Autumn Express) 


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Posted 13 September 2017 - 03:40 PM

So how many are there in service - i.e. not being repaired or not ready? If they are not in service, when will they be back? With so much discussion, the air at this altitude is getting cloudy.



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Posted 14 September 2017 - 08:15 AM

I would guess that on a particular day almost nobody here knows precisely which delivered cars are actually in service.
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Posted 14 September 2017 - 09:24 AM

I'm guessing Columbus will be on 97(15). Unless Hialeah isn't ready for it.


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Amtrak still has service disruptions in Florida due to Hurricane Irma.  They won't send any new cars south until resumption of full service to Miami.  The pickup from Elmira probably occurred so you might see it in Sunnyside.



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Posted 14 September 2017 - 10:09 AM

I'm guessing Columbus will be on 97(15). Unless Hialeah isn't ready for it.


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Amtrak still has service disruptions in Florida due to Hurricane Irma.  They won't send any new cars south until resumption of full service to Miami.  The pickup from Elmira probably occurred so you might see it in Sunnyside.
I had based my assumption on a post that indicated they'd be running - but this has since been modified.


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2012: Apr: WIL=>WAS=>WIL (NER) // May(NTD): WIL=>PHL=>WIL (NER) / PHL=>PAO=>PHL (Keystone) // Aug: WIL=>WAS (NER) / BWI=>WIL (NER) // Oct(Gathering): PHL=>WIL (NER) / PHL=>HAR=>PHL (Keystone) / SEPTA, NJT, PATCO, River Line, Princeton Dinky
2013: May(NTD): WIL=>WAS=>WIL (NER)  // Oct (Gathering): WIL=>CHI (Card) / CHI=>MKE=>GLN=>CHI() / CHI=>JOL=>CHI () / CHI=>WIL(CL=>NER) / CTA, Metra. SEPTA (WIL=>NRK) // Nov:  PHL=>PHL (Autumn Express) 
2014: May(NTD):  WIL=>PHL=>WIL(NER) // May:  WIL=>BOS=>WIL(NER) day trip

2014: Oct(Gathering): WIL=>NYP=>TOL(pd-NER=>LSL) / TOL=>CHI=>LAX=>EMY(pts-LSL=>SWC=>CS) / EMY=>CHI=>TOL (pts-CZ-CL) / TOL=>WAS=>WIL(pd-CL=>NER)
2015: May: CHI=>CIN(pd-Card) / CIN=>WIL(pts Card)
2015;  Oct(Gathering):  WIL=>WAS(Acela) / ALX=>WAS(NER) / WAS=>BAL(Acela) / WAS=>WIL(NER)

2016: Mar: WIL=>WAS=>WIL (NER)  // Oct:  WIL=>NYP=>NYP=>WIL (Autumn Express) 


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Posted 14 September 2017 - 12:07 PM

 

I'm guessing Columbus will be on 97(15). Unless Hialeah isn't ready for it.

Amtrak still has service disruptions in Florida due to Hurricane Irma.  They won't send any new cars south until resumption of full service to Miami.

The current delays are not the fault of CAF.  ;)



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Posted 14 September 2017 - 12:55 PM

 

 

I'm guessing Columbus will be on 97(15). Unless Hialeah isn't ready for it.

Amtrak still has service disruptions in Florida due to Hurricane Irma.  They won't send any new cars south until resumption of full service to Miami.

The current delays are not the fault of CAF.  ;)

 

Yeah. Why would one expect a car builder to deliver cars in which the Air-conditioner actually works. How very daft of people to have such odd expectations! :P



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Posted 14 September 2017 - 01:21 PM

Yeah. No reason to get all hot and bothered over that.
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Posted 16 September 2017 - 03:44 PM

 

 

 

I'm guessing Columbus will be on 97(15). Unless Hialeah isn't ready for it.

Amtrak still has service disruptions in Florida due to Hurricane Irma.  They won't send any new cars south until resumption of full service to Miami.

The current delays are not the fault of CAF.  ;)

 

Yeah. Why would one expect a car builder to deliver cars in which the Air-conditioner actually works. How very daft of people to have such odd expectations! :P

 

 

Are we sure that Amtrak did not specify specific AC equipment in order to provide interchangeability with existing cars? I have no idea if that happened, but we are talking Amtrak, so just saying.



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Posted 16 September 2017 - 04:18 PM

Older equipment would likely have been r-22 based,  newer equipment can not be. Also, I would not be surprised if the compressor is a more modern/efficient design. The tendency in new railcars, where the car type permits, is to use packaged units in the roof for ease of swap out for maintenance. 



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Posted 16 September 2017 - 04:22 PM

 

 

 

I'm guessing Columbus will be on 97(15). Unless Hialeah isn't ready for it.

Amtrak still has service disruptions in Florida due to Hurricane Irma.  They won't send any new cars south until resumption of full service to Miami.
The current delays are not the fault of CAF.  ;)
 
Yeah. Why would one expect a car builder to deliver cars in which the Air-conditioner actually works. How very daft of people to have such odd expectations! :P
 
 
Are we sure that Amtrak did not specify specific AC equipment in order to provide interchangeability with existing cars? I have no idea if that happened, but we are talking Amtrak, so just saying.
Yeah. Unfortunately exceptionalism appears to apply to Amtrak and the decisions it makes, in spades, unfortunately.


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Posted 17 September 2017 - 03:12 AM

Has Amtrak moved the V-2 diners temporarily to all Crescent and  LSL ?  That until service restored to MIA ?



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Posted 17 September 2017 - 07:33 AM

Has Amtrak moved the V-2 diners temporarily to all Crescent and  LSL ?  That until service restored to MIA ?

No



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Posted 17 September 2017 - 03:08 PM

Has Amtrak moved the V-2 diners temporarily to all Crescent and  LSL ?  That until service restored to MIA ?

 

Are there any diners at all on the LSL at this time?  If so, I missed the announcement of their return.

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Posted 17 September 2017 - 03:32 PM

 

Has Amtrak moved the V-2 diners temporarily to all Crescent and  LSL ?  That until service restored to MIA ?

 

Are there any diners at all on the LSL at this time?  If so, I missed the announcement of their return.

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No....just the lounge subbing for the diner....



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Posted 17 September 2017 - 03:37 PM

On trainorders there are photos of two SM consists being stored in Philly until the Meteor starts running again. Augusta and Boston are in these two consists as the dining car "of record."
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Posted 17 September 2017 - 11:57 PM

I happened to be near Elmira, NY today, so I took a look around CAF. I saw several Viewliner shells in the back, some on trucks and some not. What's odd is that they all appeared to be sleeper cars, and several were even wrapped by the doors like they were being stored. Does anyone know what's up with this?

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Posted Yesterday, 09:11 AM

And so the mystery saga of VL II deliveries continues unabated... :)



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Posted Today, 01:01 PM

Looking at these photos, it appears that no work is being done.  They mystery is on going.


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Texas Eagle                                      Sunset Limited                            California Zephyr                                Southwest Chief                Empire Builder            Capitol Limited           Lake Shore limited (NYP & BOS)      Crescent
Kentucky Cardinal                             Cardinal                                       Pere Marquette                                  Wolverines                        Lincoln Service            Empire Service          Keystone Service                               Acelas
NE Regionals                                    Pioneer                                        Desert Wind                                       Broadway Limited             Three Rivers                 Coast Starlight                          
 
Amtrak Miles Logged: over 211,000





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