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#21 Ryan

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Posted 12 December 2016 - 04:12 PM

It really doesn't matter what type of car it is. The end of the train will always have tail wagging.


This.

I sat in the last row of the last car on 19 once. But only once, it was awful.
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Posted 12 December 2016 - 04:59 PM

In the Nov/Dec issue of Amtrak Ink, in the Ask Wick section is this nugget:

 

 

Do you know when the new single level long-distance cars
will be entered into service?

This obviously has been a real problem for us in that the cars we
ordered from CAF have been late in delivery and are getting later. We
do have all of the new baggage cars on line now and we’re waiting for
the new diners, the first of which is due out later this year. [NOTE:
Amtrak conditionally accepted CAF’s first delivered car on Nov. 7.
The remaining cars are scheduled to be delivered between August
2017 and September 2018.]

 

That's a long wait until the deliveries start up.

 

 

Eight more months?  That's really bad, and I'm usually one of the defenders of the Viewliner II program.  

 

I hope that August date refers to the other car types, sleepers and baggage-dorms, rather than to the diners, and they'll arrive much sooner (wasn't February mentioned?).  The note is worded a bit poorly anyway (November 7th marked conditional acceptance of the first diner, not the actual first CAF car), but taken literally, it means no more diners until August.  

 

I suspect those dates reflect the next class of cars (bag dorm or sleeper) entering service and remaining class (bag dorm or sleeper) to enter service.


Edited by Thirdrail7, 12 December 2016 - 05:00 PM.

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Posted 12 December 2016 - 09:38 PM

This thread is working ok imho as long as we stay close to the topic. I check back every time there is a blue dot on my phone next this topic. It's annoying to then find a photo of the city of Annapolis rather than the dining car Annapolis.


What if Annapolis (the diner) was in Annapolis (the city)?

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Posted 13 December 2016 - 09:34 AM

Ha!  Great one!  Has anyone dined on Annapolis yet?  Looking forward to a review.


Edited by tommylicious, 13 December 2016 - 09:34 AM.


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Posted 13 December 2016 - 11:17 AM

This thread is working ok imho as long as we stay close to the topic. I check back every time there is a blue dot on my phone next this topic. It's annoying to then find a photo of the city of Annapolis rather than the dining car Annapolis.


What if Annapolis (the diner) was in Annapolis (the city)?


I guess we are simply going to have to accept, that these types of posts are going to repeat here, for each and every new dining car.  :rolleyes:
 
Thank &deity that Trenton didn't make the list.
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Posted 13 December 2016 - 11:40 AM

Only if you're lucky!
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Posted 13 December 2016 - 06:52 PM

Guess I'm a lone wolf on this. I prefer sleepers on the rear. I was on the Crescent a few years ago and loved standing at the rear window as we negotiated the curves in northern Virginia. I didn't find objectionable the occasional lurch. And, as a railfan, you can't beat the view. Likewise a ride on the rear sleeper on the Texas Eagle/Sunset and EB to Portland I did not notice any problem with a rough ride.

 

But then I grew up riding sleepers that were almost always on the rear on 15-20 car trains pre-Amtrak. The Pullman company had sleepers on the rear to facilitate intermediate set offs/pick ups and to have shorter walk for Pullman passengers when boarding at terminals with the train on stub tracks and the rear next to the station. The main exceptions were trains that were ordered as coach streamliners with a coach observation on the rear but later sleepers were added to the head end - eg. Silver Meteor, South Wind. The baggage cars were on the head end so that all the activity with 'working' those cars didn't interfere with sleeper switching and /or boarding. At some intermediate stops, cars at both end of the train would be switched. Of course with Amtrak there is very little intermediate activity.



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Posted 13 December 2016 - 07:31 PM

But then I grew up riding sleepers that were almost always on the rear on 15-20 car trains pre-Amtrak. The Pullman company had sleepers on the rear to facilitate intermediate set offs/pick ups and to have shorter walk for Pullman passengers when boarding at terminals with the train on stub tracks and the rear next to the station.

The baggage cars were on the head end so that all the activity with 'working' those cars didn't interfere with sleeper switching and /or boarding. At some intermediate stops, cars at both end of the train would be switched. Of course with Amtrak there is very little intermediate activity.


My ancestors told me that at my home town north and southbound trains arrived in the morning three Pullmans would be removed from end of each train. As well Express cars were removed from front of both trains. Probably because Pullman needed to rotate cars the morning southbound cars would go on the evening southbound train and morning northbound cars on the evening northbound.

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Posted 13 December 2016 - 09:38 PM

"I was on the Crescent a few years ago and loved standing at the rear window as we negotiated the curves in northern Virginia"

Obviously before the bag was the last car.



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Posted 16 December 2016 - 03:07 PM

Just spotted 98 with the new diner in Winter Park, FL. 

Greetings from Florida! :)

 

Was hoping the Mrs. and I would get it on the way down on 97 yesterday.. alas now I know where it was!


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Posted 22 December 2016 - 06:48 AM

Amtrak has begun advertising the new cars...

 

http://blog.amtrak.c...ew-dining-cars/


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Posted 22 December 2016 - 10:27 PM

Amtrak has begun advertising the new cars...

 

http://blog.amtrak.c...ew-dining-cars/

 

Are the flowers back for real or were they just part of the photo-shoot set?



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Posted 23 December 2016 - 12:01 AM

Amtrak has begun advertising the new cars...

 

http://blog.amtrak.c...ew-dining-cars/

I see from the photo that the lower windows have a mesh-type pull down shade, but not the upper windows...I could imagine that a bright sun could be an annoyance under some circumstances.   

Hate to have a valid reason to encourage the wearing of a baseball cap to the table.... :(


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Posted 24 December 2016 - 02:55 PM

Amtrak has begun advertising the new cars...
 
http://blog.amtrak.c...ew-dining-cars/

 
Are the flowers back for real or were they just part of the photo-shoot set?


Is the fluffy Railroad French Toast the waitress is carrying back for real in the SM?
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Posted 25 December 2016 - 12:29 PM

Are all the diners in that photo Asian?  Tour group?


Edited by tommylicious, 25 December 2016 - 12:30 PM.


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Posted 25 December 2016 - 02:29 PM

 

Amtrak has begun advertising the new cars...

 

http://blog.amtrak.c...ew-dining-cars/

 

Are the flowers back for real or were they just part of the photo-shoot set?

 

I reported a couple of months ago that there were fake flowers on the Crescent in July.



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Posted 25 December 2016 - 04:57 PM

Can't help noticing that Viewliner II diners Montgomery, Nashville, and Tallahassee will be named for cities that once had Amtrak service but no longer do. Also ironic that Viewliner II diner Raleigh will never be seen on the Silver Star running through its namesake city. 


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Posted 25 December 2016 - 05:49 PM

Never say never. It's not guaranteed that the star will never have diners.

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Posted 25 December 2016 - 06:24 PM

They should say new dining "car" until they receive another one.😃

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Posted 26 December 2016 - 09:44 AM

They should say new dining "car" until they receive another one.


There is the 8400 too, or doesn't that Viewliner Diner count anymore?
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