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Viewliner II Part 2: Dining Car Production, Delivery, Speculation


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#1941 cpotisch

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Posted 05 July 2018 - 02:20 PM

Seriously, what is happening with the diners? Its been many months since the last delivery. Could Amtrak possibly have had CAF skip to production of the bag-dorms and/or sleepers? Seems like they probably arent going to need more diners any time soon, so it could it make sense to skip the remaining diners for now and head on to the cars that actually make money? Im just wondering.
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Posted 05 July 2018 - 03:58 PM

Seriously, what is happening with the diners? Its been many months since the last delivery. Could Amtrak possibly have had CAF skip to production of the bag-dorms and/or sleepers? Seems like they probably arent going to need more diners any time soon, so it could it make sense to skip the remaining diners for now and head on to the cars that actually make money? Im just wondering.

 

Take this with a grain of salt, but I read on another forum that Amtrak may have grounds to cancel the contract do to CAF not meeting certain criterias and CAF at this stage would be ok with that happening. Again, a grain of salt.



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Posted 05 July 2018 - 04:07 PM

 

Seriously, what is happening with the diners? Its been many months since the last delivery. Could Amtrak possibly have had CAF skip to production of the bag-dorms and/or sleepers? Seems like they probably arent going to need more diners any time soon, so it could it make sense to skip the remaining diners for now and head on to the cars that actually make money? Im just wondering.

 

Take this with a grain of salt, but I read on another forum that Amtrak may have grounds to cancel the contract do to CAF not meeting certain criterias and CAF at this stage would be ok with that happening. Again, a grain of salt.

 

Yikes. A slightly salty yikes, but yikes nonetheless.


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Posted 05 July 2018 - 07:55 PM

Seriously, what is happening with the diners? Its been many months since the last delivery. Could Amtrak possibly have had CAF skip to production of the bag-dorms and/or sleepers? Seems like they probably arent going to need more diners any time soon, so it could it make sense to skip the remaining diners for now and head on to the cars that actually make money? Im just wondering.

 

The last three diners will not be out for a while, but they are still coming before any bag-dorms or sleepers.


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Posted 05 July 2018 - 07:59 PM

 

Seriously, what is happening with the diners? Its been many months since the last delivery. Could Amtrak possibly have had CAF skip to production of the bag-dorms and/or sleepers? Seems like they probably arent going to need more diners any time soon, so it could it make sense to skip the remaining diners for now and head on to the cars that actually make money? Im just wondering.

 

The last three diners will not be out for a while, but they are still coming before any bag-dorms or sleepers.

 

Six diners, actually.


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Posted 05 July 2018 - 08:34 PM

 

 

Seriously, what is happening with the diners? Its been many months since the last delivery. Could Amtrak possibly have had CAF skip to production of the bag-dorms and/or sleepers? Seems like they probably arent going to need more diners any time soon, so it could it make sense to skip the remaining diners for now and head on to the cars that actually make money? Im just wondering.

 

The last three diners will not be out for a while, but they are still coming before any bag-dorms or sleepers.

 

Six diners, actually.

 

Maybe 3 are due out sooner than later???



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Posted 10 July 2018 - 09:57 PM

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Routing details being finalized.


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Posted 11 July 2018 - 06:22 AM

Great news! I have been hoping to see this "scope" for a couple weeks!

 

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Edited by Ziv, 11 July 2018 - 08:25 AM.


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Posted 11 July 2018 - 08:10 AM

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Routing details being finalized.

Finally! They should have been finished with all the diners by now!


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Posted 11 July 2018 - 11:15 AM

Finally! They should have been finished with all the diners by now![/quote]
I think you mean “sleeping car lounges”.



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Posted 11 July 2018 - 12:11 PM

Finally! They should have been finished with all the diners by now![/quote]
I think you mean “sleeping car lounges”.

Fortunately, at this point 8 out of the 11 ViewDiners currently in service are being used as full service diners. So joking aside, I think I can pretty accurately call them "diners" at the moment.


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Posted 11 July 2018 - 08:16 PM


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Routing details being finalized.

Finally! They should have been finished with all the diners by now!

Should have been long finished with the entire contract/order by now.
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Posted 11 July 2018 - 09:06 PM

 

 

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Routing details being finalized.

Finally! They should have been finished with all the diners by now!

Should have been long finished with the entire contract/order by now.

 

 

And? You're stating pretty obvious facts that we're all aware of. 


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Posted 11 July 2018 - 09:31 PM



 

The last three diners will not be out for a while, but they are still coming before any bag-dorms or sleepers.

 

 

 

 

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Posted 12 July 2018 - 06:52 AM

OK Class; time for a "pop quiz":

The next "drop" of V-II Diners wI'll be comprised of:___, ___, and ___.

00-Albany
09-Concord
10-Dover
11-Frankfort
23-Springfield
24-Tallahassee

With three additional cars on the property, V-II's could be assigned to 50-51, Cardinal. One would be a protect at Wash.

Once again, when Penn is fully reopened, and 48-51 resume service there, the protects assigned at Boston and Wash could be released allowing more of a "cushion".

Separately, there is a report at another site that 8400 has been observed in Chicago and assigned to 391-394, Illini-Saluki as an axle count car.

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Posted 12 July 2018 - 06:59 AM

I want to see some new bag-dorms and/or sleepers within my lifetime, so I am ok with the last 3 diners getting "postponed".

 

 



 

The last three diners will not be out for a while, but they are still coming before any bag-dorms or sleepers.

 

 

 

 

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Posted 12 July 2018 - 07:01 AM


 

 

Routing details being finalized.

Finally! They should have been finished with all the diners by now!
Should have been long finished with the entire contract/order by now.
 
 
And? You're stating pretty obvious facts that we're all aware of. 

It was a sarcastic correction to the quoted post. If it was too subtle, the sarcasm will be produced at a more robust rate than Viewliners going forward. ;)

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Posted 12 July 2018 - 08:25 AM

With three additional cars on the property, V-II's could be assigned to 50-51, Cardinal. One would be a protect at Wash.

I wouldn't get my hopes up on that. The Cardinal is one of the most neglected routes and I just don't see them putting the nice and shiny equipment on it anytime soon.


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Posted 12 July 2018 - 08:28 AM

 

 

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Routing details being finalized.

Finally! They should have been finished with all the diners by now!

Should have been long finished with the entire contract/order by now.

 

Right. I just meant that in the four or so months since the last delivery, if CAF had continued to deliver two cars per month, they would have finished off all the diners by now.


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Posted 12 July 2018 - 09:02 AM

Now apparently it will be close to the last quarter before the Diners are done.




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