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Viewliner II Part 2: Dining Car Production, Delivery, Speculation


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#1341 AmtrakLKL

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Posted 11 January 2018 - 08:49 AM

Jackson is on 98(11). Currently stuck in Miami due to a trespasser strike by Tri-Rail.



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Posted 11 January 2018 - 02:23 PM

Jackson is on 98(11). Currently stuck in Miami due to a trespasser strike by Tri-Rail.


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Posted 12 January 2018 - 06:29 PM

Could it be that there is not personnel available to work more train routes yet ?   Bidding rules might be complicated ?

Nope! Not enough executives to make a decision. Appropriations needed from congress to add sufficient management slots to decide what to do with all the diners. :giggle:



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Posted 12 January 2018 - 08:27 PM

Is it too late to make them cafeteria (not cafe) cars?  How about a buffet car?  ^_^


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Posted 12 January 2018 - 09:49 PM

Is it too late to make them cafeteria (not cafe) cars?  How about a buffet car?  ^_^

 

what do you expect the difference to be?

 

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Posted 12 January 2018 - 10:43 PM

Is it too late to make them cafeteria (not cafe) cars?  How about a buffet car?  ^_^

 

Done well, could be a winning plan.  

 

 

Is it too late to make them cafeteria (not cafe) cars?  How about a buffet car?  ^_^

 

what do you expect the difference to be?

 

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Cafeteria = Piccadilly (server plates your selections as you move along serving line) and buffet = Golden Corral (you plate your own servings, such as from many salad bars), or similar, although I believe the terms are sometimes used interchangeably even in cases where they shouldn't be.  Auto Train was once essentially a cafeteria setup, which seems more practical.  



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Posted 13 January 2018 - 11:23 AM

Think inexperienced people carrying plates overloaded with food on a silver service train rolling down the NEC at 110 mph, and then hitting a interlocking where 3 tracks are reduced to 2 such as at gunpowder or havre de grace, and you will understand why buffet and cafeteria style would not work.


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Posted 13 January 2018 - 11:43 AM

Think inexperienced people carrying plates overloaded with food on a silver service train rolling down the NEC at 110 mph, and then hitting a interlocking where 3 tracks are reduced to 2 such as at gunpowder or havre de grace, and you will understand why buffet and cafeteria style would not work.


Back in 1987 the food was cafeteria style on a Sliver train and after you payed for your meals a Amtrak employee carry it to your table.

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Posted 13 January 2018 - 11:53 AM

Think inexperienced people carrying plates overloaded with food on a silver service train rolling down the NEC at 110 mph, and then hitting a interlocking where 3 tracks are reduced to 2 such as at gunpowder or havre de grace, and you will understand why buffet and cafeteria style would not work.


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So what's different now than when it worked previously?  



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Posted 13 January 2018 - 12:00 PM

Who said it worked well?  Besides, that was before we entered the litigation universe.



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Posted 13 January 2018 - 12:03 PM

I remember the employees carrying the food then, but figured cost cutting would eliminate that position.


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Posted 13 January 2018 - 12:26 PM

You only need three people: a cook, a server, and a carrier.
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Posted 13 January 2018 - 02:04 PM

You only need three people: a cook, a server, and a carrier.


With 3 people you can run full dining car....

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Posted 13 January 2018 - 03:32 PM

Think inexperienced people carrying plates overloaded with food on a silver service train rolling down the NEC at 110 mph, and then hitting a interlocking where 3 tracks are reduced to 2 such as at gunpowder or havre de grace, and you will understand why buffet and cafeteria style would not work.


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You obviously don't get sarcasm..


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Posted 13 January 2018 - 03:41 PM

Think inexperienced people carrying plates overloaded with food on a silver service train rolling down the NEC at 110 mph, and then hitting a interlocking where 3 tracks are reduced to 2 such as at gunpowder or havre de grace, and you will understand why buffet and cafeteria style would not work.


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You obviously don't get sarcasm..
huh?


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Posted 13 January 2018 - 06:15 PM

Think inexperienced people carrying plates overloaded with food on a silver service train rolling down the NEC at 110 mph, and then hitting a interlocking where 3 tracks are reduced to 2 such as at gunpowder or havre de grace, and you will understand why buffet and cafeteria style would not work.

 You obviously don't get sarcasm..
huh?

Easy, Acela. Steve, I think Thirdrail was being sarcastic, evidenced by the side-looking emoji.


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Posted 13 January 2018 - 07:01 PM

I missed the sarcasm emoji. No disrespect meant to 3rd rail. Sorry about the confusion.


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Posted 13 January 2018 - 08:36 PM

You only need three people: a cook, a server, and a carrier.


With 3 people you can run full dining car....

The advantage to the buffet layout isnt so much employee cuts, but higher throughput.
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Posted 13 January 2018 - 11:45 PM

No worries, Steve4031. I was kidding about the buffet car but I have always thought the restoration of the cafeteria (not cafe) car was a good idea.

 

The LSA could still run it and you'd have a nice, eastern lounge with actual views.  For those of you that are confused, there used to be a couple of heritage, self service "cafeteria car." I've looked all over for pictures and this is the closest thing I could find:

 

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Basically, the car was stocked with sandwiches, heat and eat meals, snacks and beverages. The passengers had access to the microwaves, coffee machines and hot water.  Heck, if my memory is correct, the car even had a toaster.

 

If they decided against full service dining cars, you could probably remove the wall around the kitchen and open the area for use.

 


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Posted 14 January 2018 - 05:47 AM

I understand now. Your picture reminds me of the layout on some snack bar areas in the lower level of a sightseer lounge. That would be ok with me. With the big windows and more tables this would be better than current single level amcafes.


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