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#81 chakk

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Posted 15 May 2017 - 03:59 PM

And since there will appear numerous posts to the AU forum later in the year wondering why the CZ departing Chicago 15 March 2018 is already sold out, perhaps the webmaster could post a sticky note on the home page mentioning that the train is sold out and why.

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Edited by chakk, 15 May 2017 - 04:00 PM.


#82 Lonestar648

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Posted 15 May 2017 - 05:05 PM

Do you think Amtrak has the inventory to add cars, especially if there is a high probability of the cars being sold out?

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#83 chakk

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Posted 16 May 2017 - 01:53 AM

Amtrak did add a second SSL to the 2017 train. They probably could add a few more sleepers or coaches to the 2018 train, if demand warranted.

But then, the management might resist doing that unless it involved moving some midwest cars to the west coast that would be needed there anyway for other reasons.

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Posted 16 May 2017 - 03:37 AM

If they could do it as part of west coast rotations in/out of Beech Grove, then maybe would work.

Trains Traveled On:
Texas Eagle                                      Sunset Limited                            California Zephyr                                Southwest Chief                Empire Builder            Capitol Limited           Lake Shore limited (NYP & BOS)      Crescent
Kentucky Cardinal                             Cardinal                                       Pere Marquette                                  Wolverines                        Lincoln Service            Empire Service          Keystone Service                               Acelas
NE Regionals                                    Pioneer                                        Desert Wind                                       Broadway Limited             Three Rivers                 Coast Starlight                          
 
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#85 Thirdrail7

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Posted 16 May 2017 - 09:26 AM

There is still the problem of Denver. Although things have gotten better, it is still restricted to a total of 14 pieces (up from 12.) That doesn't leave much for additional equipment, particularly if you have to add another diesel.


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Posted 16 May 2017 - 11:54 PM

If the train is sold out and all of the Train Jam passengers are boarding in Chicago, there is really no reason to stop in Denver, other than for crew change, watering cars, and the fresh-air break. So perhaps the 12-car limit could be stretched.

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Posted 16 May 2017 - 11:57 PM

If the train is sold out and all of the Train Jam passengers are boarding in Chicago, there is really no reason to stop in Denver, other than for crew change, watering cars, and the fresh-air break. So perhaps the 12-car limit could be stretched.

 

Crew change can be done anywhere, the fresh-air break can be cancelled, but... adding water and removing sewage is kinda necessary.  :-(  And that requires actually entering the platform at Denver.  Not only that, it requires *spotting the cars on the platform*.

 

  I suppose they could split the train and spot half of the cars on the Ski Train platform for watering.  That would raise the limit to maybe 24 cars... it would prevent RTD from doing any switching between the "west" and "east" halves of their commuter rail system during this time, but that's probably OK. 

 

The extra time taken would probably be cancelled out by all the station stops being skipped.


Edited by neroden, 17 May 2017 - 12:50 AM.

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Posted 17 May 2017 - 12:00 AM

If the train is sold out and all of the Train Jam passengers are boarding in Chicago, there is really no reason to stop in Denver, other than for crew change, watering cars, and the fresh-air break. So perhaps the 12-car limit could be stretched.

There is one big reason, fuel, which happens on an integrated fuel pad in the station complex...Attached File  ImageUploadedByAmtrak Forum1494997209.260917.jpg   64.39KB   9 downloads the black "matting" under the locomotives in this photo.




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