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#41 JayPea



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Posted 13 March 2018 - 06:52 PM

All the Thousands of people in South Dakota and Wyoming definitely deserve to have Passenger Rail IF they Pay for it!

Amtrak Miles and Trains Traveled: 89811-City of New Orleans, State House/Lincoln Service, California Zephyr, Southwest Chief, Empire Builder, Cascades, Crescent, Capital Limited, Coast Starlight, Texas Eagle/Sunset Limited, Silver Meteor, Lake Shore Limited,  Pacific Surfliner, Cardinal, Vermonter, Northeast Regional, Downeaster, Heartland Flyer, Wolverine. 
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Posted 14 March 2018 - 07:59 AM

This comes back to my old argument. If South Dakota and Wyoming want rail service they are expected to pay for it. But North Dakota and Montana get free service. Is that fair? The real fair thing would be all states would get federally funded rail service but we don't have the equipment for it. Plus there are other areas in the country that also don't have rail service as well.

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Bring back the Broadway Limited (or Three Rivers or any Chicago-Pittsburgh-Philly train)!

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Posted 14 March 2018 - 09:52 AM

Historical facts and continuation of things that already existed is relevant in this discussion.


For example the fact that you have US citizenship whereas someone born in Nigeria does not has more to do with the historical accident that you were born in the US than anything to do with fairness, being more deserving or any other such. ;) The Empire Builder is there because it was part of the original system that has survived, more than anything else. There is nothing in South Dakota because there was nothing there when Amtrak was created. Which makes it one step further removed than those places that lost service at the creation of Amtrak. Nothing to do with fairness or otherwise. All historical accidents.

Edited by jis, 14 March 2018 - 01:53 PM.

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Posted 17 March 2018 - 06:56 PM

Life isn't always fair.

I've ridden on Amtrak on the Cascades #516 (SEA-STW), Coast Starlight #14 (LAX-SLO, LAX-PDX, KFS-SEA), Southwest Chief #4 (LAX-CHI), Cardinal #50 (CHI-NYP), Northeast Regional #85 (NYP-WAS), Capitol Limited #30 (HFY-WAS), Cascades #501 (SEA-PDX), Coast Starlight #11 (SLO-LAX, PDX-KFS), and many Pacific Surfliners with Amtrak. I've seen in stations, including the previous, the California Zephyr #5 at SAC (lucky), what I guess to be Crescent #19 (at WAS) and Silver Meteor #97 (at WAS), Empire Builder #28 at PDX, Sunset Limited #2/Texas Eagle #422 at LAX, and Empire Builder #27 at PDX. I have also ridden the Hokutosei in Japan, Ueno - Sapporo (now discontinued).

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