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#21 JayPea

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Posted 12 December 2017 - 04:35 PM


 
 
In any case Montana will be very upset if anyone tries to discontinue the Empire builder, as we have seen happen repeatedly. They were not happy when it was briefly downgraded to three times a week either. So it is not going to happen, just like Cardinal is not going away either. ;)
 
 
 

 
Right and us in PA were thrilled to lose the Broadway Limited. Of course we don't matter do we? It's only the tiny irrelevant states that matter to Amtrak and AU right?

Folks in Montana and North Dakota will beg to differ with you about their states being irrelevant. You might get a better audience here with some of your proposals if you weren't so insulting about it.
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Posted 12 December 2017 - 06:53 PM

 

 

 

In any case Montana will be very upset if anyone tries to discontinue the Empire builder, as we have seen happen repeatedly. They were not happy when it was briefly downgraded to three times a week either. So it is not going to happen, just like Cardinal is not going away either. ;)

 

 

 

 

Right and us in PA were thrilled to lose the Broadway Limited. Of course we don't matter do we? It's only the tiny irrelevant states that matter to Amtrak and AU right?

 

 

Philadelphia sees more trains in an hour than states such as West Virginia - which you imply carries greater importance - have in a week.  Montana - one of the geographically larger states - is served by a single long-distance route; Pennsylvania has corridor, commuter, and long-distance train service, with four major routes between the Northeast and points west.  

 

Yet, by not removing all service from several states just so Philadelphia can have a fifth ("one seat") way to Chicago, you conclude Pennsylvania doesn't matter.  Seriously?  


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Posted 13 December 2017 - 11:53 AM

As long as trains are not running hourly through the great city of Reading, I tend to agree with him.

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Posted 13 December 2017 - 08:56 PM

 

 

 

In any case Montana will be very upset if anyone tries to discontinue the Empire builder, as we have seen happen repeatedly. They were not happy when it was briefly downgraded to three times a week either. So it is not going to happen, just like Cardinal is not going away either. ;)

 

 

 

 

Right and us in PA were thrilled to lose the Broadway Limited. Of course we don't matter do we? It's only the tiny irrelevant states that matter to Amtrak and AU right?

 

 

 

Montana and South Dakota are both bigger than Pennsylvania so perhaps they deserve a train more than your small state.

 

 


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Posted 20 December 2017 - 08:06 AM

 

 

Even when the NCH ran, the EB was the better performer, mainly because it serves an area that is not well served by the interstate road network. Only the basic two lane undivided Hwy 2 up there.

 

 

 

But those 2 lane roads up in the Hi-line area have 70 mph speed limits! :)  Kind of like Texas with snow.  I once rode the EB to havre, rented a car, and then drove to Great Falls and Yellowstone.Drove 70 mph on the 2 lane highway to Great Falls, except when I had some blowing snow.



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Posted 20 December 2017 - 08:24 AM

In PA they have a posted limit of 70, a legal limit of 76, and an unofficial tolerance of 80-85. And sometimes snow, too.
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Posted 20 December 2017 - 09:46 PM

In PA they have a posted limit of 70, a legal limit of 76, and an unofficial tolerance of 80-85. And sometimes snow, too.

That's just on the Turnpike.  All the 2-lane roads have a 55 mph limit max (and a good thing, too, given the curves and hills and cross traffic that you can't see until the last minute.)  And I-70 from the Maryland line to Breezewood is 55 mph, for some obscure reason, it doesn't seem to be any different from any other interstate in PA.



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Posted 20 December 2017 - 10:42 PM

thats not true
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