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#1 norfolkwesternhenry

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Posted 20 July 2016 - 02:43 PM

Where can I find low rate sleeper/lounge/end cars, preferably based in out of MSP, CHI, or anywhere in between on the EB probably for 30-60 people, with the route MSP-CHI-WAS (cap)-CHI(card)-MSP being 2,538 miles, at 2.10 a mile for the first car and 1.60 a mile for each next car, preferably keeping it under $15,000, or would it be better to rent an engine and engineer, to pull a lobg train, or even charter an entire train? Post other ideas as well, low cost is key, my family is not a huge railfan family, so I need to sell them this idea.
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Posted 20 July 2016 - 02:46 PM

Where can I find low rate sleeper/lounge/end cars, preferably based in out of MSP, CHI, or anywhere in between on the EB probably for 30-60 people, with the route MSP-CHI-WAS (cap)-CHI(card)-MSP being 2,538 miles, at 2.10 a mile for the first car and 1.60 a mile for each next car, preferably keeping it under $15,000, or would it be better to rent an engine and engineer, to pull a lobg train, or even charter an entire train? Post other ideas as well, low cost is key, my family is not a huge railfan family, so I need to sell them this idea.
Thanks for any reccomendations.

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Your idea restricts you to a single car, as the lowest rate I've seen is $1000 per day, and you need a minimum of three days for that trip. That leaves you without sufficient funds for the second car. That also limits you to ~22 passengers if you choose a sleeper, which wouldn't have enough room for anything but basic cooking in the single car.

Good luck

Edited by CCC1007, 20 July 2016 - 02:51 PM.


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Posted 20 July 2016 - 03:06 PM

Chartering private railroad cars and "cheap" don't belong in the same sentence. Good luck, kid. 



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Posted 20 July 2016 - 03:37 PM

. . .  2.10 a mile for the first car and 1.60 a mile for each next car . . . 

That's what Amtrak charges to pull private varnish.

Add the charter/lease fee for each car to Amtrak's mileage charges.

 

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Edited by KmH, 20 July 2016 - 03:42 PM.

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Posted 21 July 2016 - 08:12 AM

Each car also charges different amounts as well. Depending on the car or its demand.

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Posted 21 July 2016 - 01:46 PM

Sleeper/lounge car based in CHI can sleep 8, but has a max passenger limit of 16 - $4000 to $6000 per day charter/lease.
 That's pretty much what each private varnish car is going to cost per day/per car.

 

If you have 60 people but can forgo having sleepers - The Lake Pipin.
 
There is a sleeper car based in MN that can sleep 21.
 
The Cedar Rapids - a Milwaukee Road Hiawatha Skytop lounge observation car.


Edited by KmH, 21 July 2016 - 01:46 PM.

U. S. Congress - underground trolley system (1963) • Disneyland train (1968 and various other dates) • Old Tucson steam train (1969)

Amtrak: California Zephyr - Coast Starlight 

. . . . . . .Total Amtrak miles - 11,390

• 4993 miles booked May '17 - Southwest Chief, Sunset Limited, Texas Eagle, Illinois Zephyr.

 

 

 

 





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