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Viability of Long Distance Trains Without Corridor Infrastructure


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#21 jis

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Posted 20 May 2016 - 04:44 PM

Right. What window is needed would depend heavily on availability of passing tracks at the right places and such. Hard to make a blanket statement like that.



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Posted 20 May 2016 - 07:14 PM

So it's not track maintenance costs that makes Norfolk Southern oppose having another two or three trains Harrisburg-Pittsburgh. It's their fear of having their schedules fouled up for 8 or 12 hours out of a day.

 

Just today I read in Trains magazine that, with the exception of intermodals, freights are not scheduled. 



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Posted 20 May 2016 - 11:41 PM

And that's a poorly run railroad.

However most Railroads do have some sort of timetable. Only they don't tell anyone about it.

Holding a train in yard for tonnage, is a train that never moves.

Balancing the flow of cargo, engines, and crews is a never ending headache. The flow of freight is never equal, power is never were you need it, and the crews like to get home.

Edited by Just-Thinking-51, 20 May 2016 - 11:44 PM.


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Posted 21 May 2016 - 01:28 AM

And that's a poorly run railroad.

However most Railroads do have some sort of timetable. Only they don't tell anyone about it.

Holding a train in yard for tonnage, is a train that never moves.

Balancing the flow of cargo, engines, and crews is a never ending headache. The flow of freight is never equal, power is never were you need it, and the crews like to get home.

I remember seeing somewhere that BNSF has a weekly schedule, though the schedule is never the same from one week to the next.

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Posted 21 May 2016 - 03:10 PM

So it's not track maintenance costs that makes Norfolk Southern oppose having another two or three trains Harrisburg-Pittsburgh. It's their fear of having their schedules fouled up for 8 or 12 hours out of a day.

 
Just today I read in Trains magazine that, with the exception of intermodals, freights are not scheduled.


Yes -- this sort of total, unmitigated incompetence has become common in the US railroad "industry". CN did schedule all its trains a few years back. BNSF does have schedules at least on some lines -- we know this from its modeling on certain subdivisions which has become public.

The complete incompetence of the rail industry in the US is grounds enough for nationalization, honestly. They were so bad at the start of World War I that they had to be nationalized just to get the job done for the war effort. Unfortunately an idiotic Congress returned them to the former owners, who proceeded to (mostly) mismanage them in progressively worse ways for the next 100 years.
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Posted 26 February 2017 - 09:37 PM

I'd like to see much more Govt. help for LD infrastructure improvements that would benefit passenger rail.


Edited by Rover, 07 March 2017 - 01:33 AM.

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