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#221 WoodyinNYC

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Posted 19 July 2017 - 01:32 PM

Local newspaper: Gulf Coast wants two trains: One NOL to Orlando, the other NOL to Mobile.

http://www.sunherald...e162135023.html

That Mobile-New Orleans route will be a great corridor someday. It's short enuff that business types could leave one city around breakfast time, spend the day in meetings, and return home before bedtime. The casinos along the Mississippi Coast will attract riders. And they will produce them: It's easy to imagine visitors in the beachfront hotels grabbing a train for a day trip to the city.

 

Meanwhile, a route Baton Rouge-New Orleans has been talked about and studied for years. Corridor trains there may have to wait until the Florida train is operating successfully to build solid support for state-financed operating costs. Of course, the Florida and Mobile trains would feed passengers to the Baton Rouge train, and vice versa.

 

Louisiana has plenty of gambling opportunities, so the Mississippi casinos would not be a big draw. But Louisiana has basically no beaches -- certainly none to compete with those on the Mississippi Coast. (Sand is pumped to create and maintain these beaches by the Army Corps of Engineers, thus making them, like Amtrak, a service paid for by federal funds.)

 

Both the Mobile and Baton Rouge corridors would use freed-up Horizon coaches, if their replacements ever arrive on the Midwest corridors.



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Posted 19 July 2017 - 04:41 PM

That's not used car negotiating rules, that's the rules of negotiating anything where the selling party is willing to sell.

Then there is government contract negotiating rules... bid low on flawed specifications and charge through the nose for change orders.



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Posted 19 July 2017 - 08:48 PM

CSX is evidently telling shippers to expect "bumps in the road" including extra days for shipping times as CSX tightens up schedules. This comes from today's earning call. Claiming short-term pain for long-term gain.

Probably not a good sign for Amtrak negotiations along the Gulf Coast.

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Posted 20 July 2017 - 12:33 PM

If the service does get restored, would it make more sense to route it through Jacksonville or Orlando, FL?


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Posted 20 July 2017 - 12:34 PM

Seventeen drawbridges. Wow! That sounds not good in terms of On-Time Performance for the proposed route.


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Posted 20 July 2017 - 01:04 PM

17  drawbridges ?   what is needed is the current openings that occur or maybe just the closings if that is what some draw bridges do ?  Traffic thru the bridge openings and times would need documenting as well.  Any calendar differences ? You take the train schedule and match them to the boat transit times with tide tables as well if tides affect the bridge transits.  What bridges not manned full time ? Not so simple is it ?  


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Posted 20 July 2017 - 01:08 PM

If the service does get restored, would it make more sense to route it through Jacksonville or Orlando, FL?

 

The route from New Orleans passes through Jacksonville before turning south to Orlando.    



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Posted 20 July 2017 - 05:30 PM

 

If the service does get restored, would it make more sense to route it through Jacksonville or Orlando, FL?

 

The route from New Orleans passes through Jacksonville before turning south to Orlando.    

 

True, but I wasn't sure which would be the ideal stop based on Amtrak revenue and/or passenger preferences.


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Posted 20 July 2017 - 06:15 PM

 

 

If the service does get restored, would it make more sense to route it through Jacksonville or Orlando, FL?

 

The route from New Orleans passes through Jacksonville before turning south to Orlando.    

 

True, but I wasn't sure which would be the ideal stop based on Amtrak revenue and/or passenger preferences.

It has to go somewhere to get serviced and turned. The Sanford shops north of Orlando will handle that.

 

But seriously, which is the more popular destination, Jacksonville or Disney World?

 

The to-be-restored line has been carefully worked out. Give the study some study.

 

www.newsherald.com/assets/pdf/DA2111216.PDF



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Posted 21 July 2017 - 09:10 PM

 

Local newspaper: Gulf Coast wants two trains: One NOL to Orlando, the other NOL to Mobile.

http://www.sunherald...e162135023.html

That Mobile-New Orleans route will be a great corridor someday.

 

If it gets built before sea level rise floods that coastline.  At the current rate.... I'm thinking not.

 

I wish advocates in these states the best of luck in spending local money on this project, but I would prioritize routes which aren't going to get washed out.


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