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#21 AmtrakBlue

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Posted 29 March 2016 - 09:09 AM

 

 

I think we should have an AU mini-gathering in NY in June.  Those who know NYP can show those of us who don't the ropes.   :)

What's happening in June in New York?

That's when Trainman's Daughter and her granddaughter will be there.  ;)



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Posted 29 March 2016 - 09:59 AM

One of the "must does" is the Staten Island Ferry, still Free after all these years, and you can eat lunch with a fantastic view of lower Manhattan and ships going to/from the City.😉

A walk along Fifth and Park Avenues and through the Park is also Free and riding the subway to Coney Island for a Hot Dog @ Nathans and around the Amusement Park and Beach is a really cheap and cool day trip.😉
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Posted 29 March 2016 - 10:16 AM

See if you can get lucky and ride the classic Staten Island Ferry ship John F. Kennedy. AFAIK that is the oldest operating ship in the fleet. Two of its contemporaries have been retired a while back. They were commissioned in 1965. The rest of the boats are all of 1981 or later vintage.

 

You can also get a fantastic view of the Statue of Liberty and the Verrazano Narrows Bridge in addition to a great view of lower Manhattan/Battery Park and the new World Trade Center tower.



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Posted 29 March 2016 - 10:46 AM

My granddaughter and I will be off on another train adventure in June. We will spend a couple of days in NY city before heading down to FBG. From there we will take VRE to and from DC for a few more days.

Fredericksburg is pretty far away from DC. I expect you know this, but just in case, want to point out that VRE is strictly a Monday to Friday commuter service with limited service outside of the morning trips inbound to DC and outbound in the evening. There is no VRE service on weekends or Federal holidays. If I was visiting DC region to see the tourists sites (of which there are many), would not recommend staying in Fredericksburg (unless one has a car and wants to see all the Civil War battlefields).



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Posted 29 March 2016 - 10:51 AM

 

My granddaughter and I will be off on another train adventure in June. We will spend a couple of days in NY city before heading down to FBG. From there we will take VRE to and from DC for a few more days.

Fredericksburg is pretty far away from DC. I expect you know this, but just in case, want to point out that VRE is strictly a Monday to Friday commuter service with limited service outside of the morning trips inbound to DC and outbound in the evening. There is no VRE service on weekends or Federal holidays. If I was visiting DC region to see the tourists sites (of which there are many), would not recommend staying in Fredericksburg (unless one has a car and wants to see all the Civil War battlefields).

 

I think she has family in the Fredericksburg area.



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Posted 29 March 2016 - 11:45 AM

Yep. Betty is right. One of my sons lives in Fredericksberg so after leaving NY we will go directly there and use it for a home base during the rest of our stay. I got reduced fare cards for us--hers for being young, mine for being old--so we can ride on VRE half fare.

You've all given me great tips for handling NYP. The 8th Ave/31st St entrance was mentioned. Isn't that the one close the pizza place that some were raving about recently? Maybe we'll try some NY style pizza there and compare it to Giordanos Chicago style pizza we'll be having during our layover there. Yum!

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Posted 29 March 2016 - 01:19 PM

While Broadway Shows are the thing in New York, if you are into classical music at all, try to see a performance in Carnegie Hall or even at the Avery Fisher Hall in Lincoln Center, the home of the New York Philharmonic. If you like classical Opera try something at the Metropolitan Opera  next door to Avery Fisher Hall, and if it is chamber music that rocks your boat try something at the Alice Tully Hall in the same complex. Sometimes in the summer the New York Philharmonic performs at the various city parks in their free Concert in the Park series too.

 

Technically that concert hall has been renamed.  You know, paid naming rights and all.

 

http://nyphil.org



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Posted 29 March 2016 - 01:46 PM

Avery Fisher Hall is now David Geffen Hall, 100  million dollars



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Posted 29 March 2016 - 01:48 PM

Avery Fisher Hall is now David Geffen Hall, 100  million dollars

Thanks for the correction. Old habits die hard :-/



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Posted 29 March 2016 - 01:53 PM

Avery Fisher Hall is now David Geffen Hall, 100  million dollars


Thanks for the correction. Old habits die hard :-/


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Posted 29 March 2016 - 01:58 PM

If you are walkers, do what I did (recommendation by my ex-New Yorker old Landlord), walk up Broadway from Battery Park to Midtown and watch the age of the city get younger - it was really a fun walk, lot of things to see, both buildings, shops, people, etc.


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Posted 29 March 2016 - 04:47 PM

The 8th Ave/31st St entrance was mentioned. Isn't that the one close the pizza place that some were raving about recently? Maybe we'll try some NY style pizza there and compare it to Giordanos Chicago style pizza we'll be having during our layover there. Yum!


Yes, NY Pizza Suprema is on 8th Avenue just south of 31st Street.

If you do end up having both, you may find it hard to believe that they're both considered "pizza."

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Posted 29 March 2016 - 05:13 PM

 

 

Avery Fisher Hall is now David Geffen Hall, 100  million dollars


Thanks for the correction. Old habits die hard :-/

 


For the right amount of money you can buy a new habit and name it whatever you like.

 

In fact Avery Fisher put up $10 million back in the 70s to get his name there.  The symphony actually put up the naming rights for bid, so it's not as if it was Geffen's idea.



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Posted 29 March 2016 - 05:18 PM

Will Geffen get "Trumped" if the Donald decides to outbid that measly 100 mil?😕

Old saying: "Money doesn't talk, it swears!"😑
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Posted 29 March 2016 - 05:50 PM

Yep. Betty is right. One of my sons lives in Fredericksberg so after leaving NY we will go directly there and use it for a home base during the rest of our stay. I got reduced fare cards for us--hers for being young, mine for being old--so we can ride on VRE half fare.

You've all given me great tips for handling NYP. The 8th Ave/31st St entrance was mentioned. Isn't that the one close the pizza place that some were raving about recently? Maybe we'll try some NY style pizza there and compare it to Giordanos Chicago style pizza we'll be having during our layover there. Yum!

Sorry to go off topic but my daughter will be starting at Mary Washington in the fall and I'm looking forward to Goolricks's  and Carr's.  The first place I want to try is Brock's Riverside Grill mainly because it sits next to the river and the CSX bridge over the river.  My only time in FBG, prior to the UMW visits, was the short dwell times at the station when riding a Regional.  I'm really looking forward to getting to know that city better.  


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Posted 29 March 2016 - 06:14 PM

My granddaughter and I will be off on another train adventure in June. We will spend a couple of days in NY city before heading down to FBG. From there we will take VRE to and from DC for a few more days.

After checking out of our NY hotel, we want to store our luggage for a few hours while we finish up our sightseeing. My first question is, can we store our bags at NYP? If so, where and how much?

Question #2 is, how complicated is it to get to our train? I've done lots of reading about the station, and it is very intimidating. It would simplify things if we got a red cap to take us and our bags to the train, but I understand that they are nearly invisible. I have a one day lounge pass thanks to the generosity if fellow AUer Ben_G, but am saving it to use in DC to avoid paying $60-$70 in bag storage fees there on the day we head home.

#3- How much time should we allow to retrieve our bags, search for the elusive red cap, and get to our train. It leaves NYP at 3:05 (train #85)?

Thanks so much for any help and advice you can give me. Be sure to keep it simple and use small words!

 

Re: #2, Penn Station is very complicated but if I had to direct someone who had never been there to the Amtrak area, I would say to enter at the main entrance on 7th Avenue and 32nd St (32nd dead ends into it). Go down the escalator. Go straight and keep on going straight and you will find yourself there. I am on 85 every other Friday (I alternate with the one after, 173), but not during the summer; otherwise I'd be happy to direct you personally if it were a Friday!

 

Re: New Yorkers, I would say we are just very direct and no-nonsense and some take this as rudeness. Also, there is little personal space and we adapt to this by methods such as not looking people in the eye. But we are super nice to tourists for the most part.



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Posted 29 March 2016 - 06:37 PM

NY Supreme is the best I've had in NYC. And i've tried several. I've never gotten to try the "coal-oven" original places where you have to buy the whole pie... too many great buy-the-slice places in NYC (not-so in Chicago :(

 

Not to get in a "food fight" but Giordanos is highly over rates. Geno's East is my favorite in Chicago with the Original UNO (not the chains), and Lou Malnatis tied in second place. (Lou's has slightly better pizza, UNO and DUE have the atmosphere and history.). 

 

NY Penn is a bit of a maze.. but the Amtrak part is pretty easy to figure out. You may find it easier than Chicago Union Station... after all these years I still get turned around in Chicago, but I know NYP pretty well. 


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Posted 29 March 2016 - 06:55 PM

If you are into American dining, there is a restaurant called Skylight Diner just a block west on 34th Street from Penn Station. It is on 34th street and 9th Ave. They have a huge selection of classic diner fare, 24 hour service, friendly staff and large portion sizes for the price.

As for Penn Station, I would definitely recommend getting redcap assistance. They will take you and your luggage down to the train before the crowd makes a mad dash for it. It worked very well when I rode the Adirondack back in 2012, as that train was pretty full. We were able to get to sit where we wanted, and since my mother has knee problems they took us in the elevator. Be sure to give them a nice tip--$5 is nice, but if they're very nice and helpful I would tip more.

Might I also suggest a hotel? Stay at
the Homewood Suites on 37th street between 8th and 9th Aves. It is just a 3 block walk from Penn Station, and they will gladly stow your bags until you leave for the station. Very nice hotel with kitchens in all rooms and a free breakfast that's decent.

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Posted 29 March 2016 - 09:51 PM

The Catholic High School Hockey League, which I work with, plays every weekend (in season) at Abe Stark Rink in Coney Island, and my father was from Brighton Beach, so I used to go out their every summer weekend growing up, and now every winter weekend as an adult. Soft spot in my heart for Nathan's, and for pizza, Totonno's with it's ancient coal oven is still something special. The minor league ballpark next to the rink (down the block from Nathan's) is actually a lot of fun to watch a game at, in the summer.



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Posted 30 March 2016 - 12:15 AM

Penn Station is very complicated but if I had to direct someone who had never been there to the Amtrak area, I would say to enter at the main entrance on 7th Avenue and 32nd St (32nd dead ends into it).


I wouldn't say that NYP is "complicated" so much as needlessly confusing. In its current form it's one of the ugliest train stations I've ever seen and it seems rather poorly designed for the current traffic levels and usage patterns. Amtrak probably can't do anything substantive about the structure and platforms but I see no reason why they couldn't make some better maps and fix the nearly incomprehensible signage.

 

Re: New Yorkers, I would say we are just very direct and no-nonsense and some take this as rudeness. Also, there is little personal space and we adapt to this by methods such as not looking people in the eye. But we are super nice to tourists for the most part.


In my experience Mexico is nice to tourists. Japan is super nice to tourists. Thailand is super duper nice to tourists. Compared to places like that New York is fairly cold and indifferent to tourists. That doesn't mean New York is a bad place to visit. In fact I'd say the New York attitude remains a core part of the overall experience. I'll never forget my first time asking a New York City police officer for help with directions. Two officers turned and looked at me like I was on drugs and motioned for me to sod off before rolling their eyes and resuming their conversation. 


Edited by Devil's Advocate, 30 March 2016 - 09:17 AM.

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