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#41 jebr

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Posted 10 December 2015 - 02:21 PM

It seems as though, at least with the PPC, they're at least doing the annual inspections and that sort of thing to help keep them running the rest of the year (or lessen the down time the rest of the year.) That, to me, isn't terrible so long as it doesn't dramatically affect revenue.



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Posted 10 December 2015 - 11:33 PM

And of course along with a Reduction in the Sleeping Car Fares to compensate for the missing Parlor Car!😉
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Posted 11 December 2015 - 10:13 AM

Will be on 14 on 12/17. Was so looking forward for my Mom to experience the Pacific Parlour Car for the first time, with me by her side.

Hopefully there will be a PPC on our consist.

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Posted 18 December 2015 - 08:36 PM

I'm on 14(17) and sitting in PDX right now. We have a lounge instead of a PPC, which isn't bad at all...Still missed the actual PPC, and I hope for its return in the Spring.

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Posted 19 December 2015 - 12:02 AM

I'm on 14(17) and sitting in PDX right now. We have a lounge instead of a PPC, which isn't bad at all...Still missed the actual PPC, and I hope for its return in the Spring.

 

Some of them have the PPC right now (14(16) did, I arrived in Oregon yesterday with it), and some have the SSL. When they go away after the holidays, there will be no first-class lounge car on the train at all, until the PPCs come back in the spring.


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Posted 19 December 2015 - 04:06 PM

Anyone know when in the spring they'll return?



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Posted 19 December 2015 - 09:00 PM

If they are replacing windows it may be that getting FRA 223 panes is being delayed due to it being a special order and not stock panes..  



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Posted 20 December 2015 - 02:31 PM

If they are replacing windows it may be that getting FRA 223 panes is being delayed due to it being a special order and not stock panes..  

 

Let's actually hope they are investing this much into the PPCs as that means they plan to keep them in fleet for a while; I recall a couple years ago a Fleet Report projected keeping them on through at least 2018. 



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Posted 20 December 2015 - 08:14 PM

Once the PPC is gone for Spring Break, does the mean the whole train will lack wi-fi? Or will there still be wi-fi?



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Posted 20 December 2015 - 09:16 PM

The whole train has never had wifi. It was only available (and barely at that) from the PPC.
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Posted 20 December 2015 - 11:41 PM

The whole train has never had wifi. It was only available (and barely at that) from the PPC.

 

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Posted 21 December 2015 - 09:40 AM

 

The whole train has never had wifi. It was only available (and barely at that) from the PPC.

 

Thanks.

 

 

They even unplug the modem in the PPC at night, and put it away in a cupboard. It continues to operate until the battery runs down, then it goes off. So if you get up in the morning before the attendant does, there won't be any wi-fi.

 

They can take the modem into an SSL, if one is substituted for a PPC. But if there is no first-class lounge on the train at all, I expect there is no wi-fi at all. It is always possible they could put a modem in the attendant's compartment of a sleeper-car (as they did on the SWC I was just on), but that would only be one car... I expect eventually they will do that on all LD sleeper cars (that's what my SWC attendant told me is the plan), but so far I've only seen it on the Chief. And of course, they operate off cell towers, so anywhere there is no cell service, there is no wi-fi (lots of that kind of terrain on the LD trains).


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Posted 21 December 2015 - 09:54 AM

I would hope people can survive if there is no Wifi access :)



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Posted 21 December 2015 - 10:04 AM

Nobody saying it is a matter of survival. But it is a matter of 1) convenience, 2) getting the amenities advertised, and 3) saving money on cellular data bills.

Whilst I think that we will all survive, it would suck to be someone that was able to take the time off work to take the train predicated on being able to use the wifi to remain connected to the office and then not have a connection.
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Posted 22 December 2015 - 08:56 AM

Anyone know when in the spring they'll return?

 

Called Amtrak this AM, and the agent I spoke with told me (after putting me on hold twice) that they (the folks at the Amtrak call center, at least) didn't know when the PPCs would be taken out of service, or when they'd come back.  :( 



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Posted 22 December 2015 - 09:08 AM

 

Anyone know when in the spring they'll return?

 

Called Amtrak this AM, and the agent I spoke with told me (after putting me on hold twice) that they (the folks at the Amtrak call center, at least) didn't know when the PPCs would be taken out of service, or when they'd come back.  :(

 

 

The National Timetable says they'll be gone from mid-Jan to mid-March IIRC.



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Posted 22 December 2015 - 10:44 AM

 

 

Anyone know when in the spring they'll return?

 

Called Amtrak this AM, and the agent I spoke with told me (after putting me on hold twice) that they (the folks at the Amtrak call center, at least) didn't know when the PPCs would be taken out of service, or when they'd come back.  :(

 

 

The National Timetable says they'll be gone from mid-Jan to mid-March IIRC.

 

Thanks! I'm looking at the old paper timetable here, which of course doesn't have that info.



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Posted 22 December 2015 - 02:38 PM

i couldn't see where it said the ppc would be gone from mid january to mid march.  at least not in the cs timetable in the national schedule which takes effect next month.  i remember last year that they seemed to be taken off just to save money during the low ridership months as many folks reported the cars were just stored.  do we know for sure about the fra mandated reglazing or is that just a rumor?


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Posted 22 December 2015 - 07:01 PM

Earlier this month both the PPC attendant and my SCA said the cars would be out for 45 days beginning in mid January.

The PPC attendant said the glass was fine in the upper level. The lower level is currently closed because it does not have the FRA compliant glass. He did not believe they had the glass panels needed for the lower level and he strongly doubted the lower level panels would be replaced during the 45 day window. He also added that 45 days was the official word, but it might be longer. He just hoped that the cars would return.

Who knows how much inside information the crew actually had. To me it was just good speculation.

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Posted 22 December 2015 - 07:25 PM

i couldn't see where it said the ppc would be gone from mid january to mid march.  at least not in the cs timetable in the national schedule which takes effect next month.  i remember last year that they seemed to be taken off just to save money during the low ridership months as many folks reported the cars were just stored.  do we know for sure about the fra mandated reglazing or is that just a rumor?

 

It's in the National Timetable that is currently in effect. Page 89. Since it went into effect back on April 6, 2015, I have assumed that the "mid-January though mid-March unavailability" is referring to 2016.






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