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#41 cirdan

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Posted 26 February 2016 - 07:34 AM

Hi,
California High Speed Rail has announced today the award of the packages No. 4 construction contract. I believe that this is a different joint - venture firm than the other contractors working on other segments.

http://www.railwayga...speed-line.html

 

For those of us not up to speed on California geography, are all the sections awarded so far contiguous?


Edited by cirdan, 26 February 2016 - 07:35 AM.


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Posted 26 February 2016 - 01:49 PM

 

Hi,
California High Speed Rail has announced today the award of the packages No. 4 construction contract. I believe that this is a different joint - venture firm than the other contractors working on other segments.

http://www.railwayga...speed-line.html

 

For those of us not up to speed on California geography, are all the sections awarded so far contiguous?

 

 

Yes.  From about 29 miles north of Fresno at Madera to almost Bakersfield. About 100 miles.


Edited by leemell, 26 February 2016 - 02:33 PM.


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Posted 09 March 2016 - 06:29 PM

Hi,
The high speed rail project has just won a court challenge which supports the current efforts to get the railroad built.

http://www.dailyrepu...ect-to-proceed/

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Posted 10 March 2016 - 11:05 PM

If it makes people feel better there has been a lot of projects declared boondogle and ran over budget that turned out to be pretty damn important.



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Posted 14 March 2016 - 05:54 PM

If it makes people feel better there has been a lot of projects declared boondogle and ran over budget that turned out to be pretty damn important.


I know one - The Big Dig in Boston. Imagine what real estate values would be in downtown Boston if they still had that Godawful elevated highway splitting the downtown in two. It's also nice for me when I arrive on Amtrak, rent a car, and want to drive to New Hampshire.

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Posted 20 May 2016 - 08:13 AM

The Federal Government and the California HSR just amend e d their agreement which will help the project to move forward with adjustments ti deadlines and advancing more funds ti help speed up land acquisitions.

http://www.progressi...deadline--48303

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Posted 05 July 2016 - 08:18 PM

It seems to me the federal funding on the California HSR would have been better spent on Amtrak projects. For example, a daily Sunset Limited and/or Cardinal. Or the proposed New Orleans-Orlando train. Or even a revival of the Broadway Limited.

Certainly those could be achieved quicker, without the environmental issues or fights with the local California landowners. At this rate, it looks like it will take decades to get results in California, when we could have trains running elsewhere soon.

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Posted 05 July 2016 - 08:38 PM

I think high speed rail in California would be a better investment then spending money on long distance trains that are never going to go as fast anyway, not to sound like a mood killer here. 



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Posted 06 July 2016 - 02:45 AM

I think high speed rail in California would be a better investment then spending money on long distance trains that are never going to go as fast anyway, not to sound like a mood killer here. 

 

I don't think one should necessarily be at the expense of the other.



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Posted 30 July 2016 - 06:33 PM

If the California hsr is completed, and successful other regions in the country will also build hsr. Same goes for the FEC project in Florida.

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Posted 22 October 2016 - 01:48 PM

Hi,
CAHSR has made some operating decisions that will have different affects on the system to be built. The latest decision affects platform and train lengths. Here's a link to an article about the program decisions.

http://www.masstrans...-train-stations

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Posted 23 October 2016 - 03:39 PM

Nothing too surprising here. I've been involved in a number of big projects and this kind to thing has happened to every one of them.  Budget, time, risks, design all collide and trade-offs are made.



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Posted 25 October 2016 - 12:01 PM

Here is a nice explanation and rebuttal to an LA Times article on this from the CAHSRBLOG:

 

 

The argument Vartabedian, Ibbs, and other critics are making is that shorter stations make it harder to operate a “double” train set, as systems like Japan’s Shinkansen often do. But you could just as easily operate two single-sets with shorter headways. That would maintain your capacity.

Here’s an example. Sometimes the Shinkansen operates a single trainset:

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And sometimes it operates a double set:

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(Both gifs come from this video.)

Many European systems commonly operate single sets, such as Eurostar, the TGV, the AVE, and so on. So the CHSRA isn’t doing anything significant here in terms of capacity. But the savings is significant and welcome.

The same is true of tunneling. Lowering the tunnel speed from 220 to 200 mph provides a big cost savings on the cost of tunneling, but at a minor time penalty – that will likely be made up by other time savings elsewhere, including going almost directly from Palmdale to Burbank under the mountains rather than going via Santa Clarita.

So the CHSRA’s decision is sensible, as is often the case. But HSR critics will find something to criticize no matter what they do.



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Posted 09 November 2016 - 12:27 PM

Yesterday's election results likely mean no more federal funding for the California HSR, based on the Republican platform. If it is to proceed, it will need to do so using state funding only.

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Posted 09 November 2016 - 03:04 PM

Funny, I just read an article that said California High Speed Rail might benefit from Trump's plan to improve infrastructure. The platform means nothing. Trump is certainly not a party faithful Republican. 



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Posted 09 November 2016 - 05:46 PM

I agree, during the campaign Trump specifically mentioned High Speed Rail as a thing to do.  There may be some hope.



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Posted 09 November 2016 - 06:16 PM

I'll believe it when I see it. Not holding my breath.  -_-



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Posted 09 November 2016 - 06:23 PM

DOA!

Conservatives Hate California and the Rich Nimbys around the Bay Area don't want it either!

Edited by Bob Dylan, 09 November 2016 - 06:23 PM.

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Posted 09 November 2016 - 10:11 PM

during the campaign Trump specifically mentioned High Speed Rail as a thing to do.  There may be some hope.

I believe that Russia has big ambitions for HSR. So if Putin likes it … well, c'mon!



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