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Amtrak Derailment Philadelphia (5/12/2015)


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#21 edjbox

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Posted 12 May 2015 - 09:29 PM

aCS 64 #601 appears to be standing upright

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Posted 12 May 2015 - 09:31 PM

How sad, hopefully there are no deaths!

We appreciate the updates from those with access and inside info, the local news stations are doing their usual " if it bleeds it leads!" sensationalism! Sigh

Seriously?! You don't think this is big news? It's horrible and certainly merits lead news coverage.
I agree totally!, My point is that its apparent that the locals don't know what they're talking about and spreading rumors and giving out scare stories! We have this every time there's a media blitz about passenger train mishaps!

CNN is doing a very good job, the local Fixed Noise Station it's usual terrible job!

As Joe Friday said, " Just the facts mam!"

Well the CNN app still has nothing about the crash on it and Fox News is doing excellent coverage of the crash.

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Posted 12 May 2015 - 09:39 PM

I'm watching CNN, MSNBC and Fox live, and they're all doing a good job!, I was talking about the local ambulance chasing reporters here in Austin, not National coverage!
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Posted 12 May 2015 - 09:42 PM

Was this a CSX crash with freight train, sabotage or train going too fast or defect with Sprinter?

While Acela costs more, may be more prudent and safer to take Acela at this point in time.

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Posted 12 May 2015 - 09:43 PM

The curve at that this incident occurred at is rated for 50 mph. I can almost guarantee someone took this curve way to fast.

 

http://acela150kid.r...aspx?id=2826706

 

Photo shows the curve.

 

There is a yard there that holds transfer cars from Pavonia (Camden) South Philly and Abrams yard. That yard holds mostly tanks. This yard is owned by Conrail Shared Assets.   


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Posted 12 May 2015 - 09:47 PM

Thanks for the picture. The train coming towards us is heading in the direction this train was? The tank cars we're seeing are on the tracks on the right?
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Posted 12 May 2015 - 09:47 PM

The curve at that this incident occurred at is rated for 50 mph. I can almost guarantee someone took this curve way to fast.


I thought Amtrak had a PTC system to prevent that on the NEC?

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Posted 12 May 2015 - 09:51 PM

This looks like an absolute disaster. Terrifying pictures coming in from the site. 

Really, really hoping that that first car was empty for one reason or another.


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Posted 12 May 2015 - 09:56 PM

Press conference coming shortly. This guy on CNN talking about the Capital Limited/MARC collision doesn't have a clue what he's talking about.
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Posted 12 May 2015 - 09:57 PM

Very SADLY if another train derailed INTO the PATH of this train almost nothing could prevent this derailment.

This looks like the scenario that happened with this Amtrak derailment in North Philadelphia 5-12-15.

Prayers to all those impacted with this derailment tragedy.

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Posted 12 May 2015 - 09:57 PM

Really, really hoping that that first car was empty for one reason or another.


That's what prevented Chase from being a lot worse. It'll be a miracle if that happens again.
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Posted 12 May 2015 - 09:58 PM

Very SADLY if another train derailed INTO the PATH of this train almost nothing could prevent this derailment.
This looks like the scenario that happened with this Amtrak derailment in North Philadelphia 5-12-15.
Prayers to all those impacted with this derailment tragedy.
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I think that it's way too early to say what this looks like. We can't even see the whole scene.
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Posted 12 May 2015 - 09:59 PM

Thanks for the update Steve, good to have a local that knows the territory and railroads as a source!

Ex Rep Murphy, D-PA. tweeted that a US Senator got off the train in Wilmington, missed the name?

MSNBC is ripping Amtrak for poor communication regarding the disaster!
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Posted 12 May 2015 - 10:00 PM

Just saw a picture of the inside of the cafe car.

Looks really bad.

 

Note it's a somewhat graphic image so click with caution.

https://twitter.com/...320256759758848


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Posted 12 May 2015 - 10:01 PM

https://twitter.com/NJerzyFireAlert

reported early on "3rd Alarm struck. This is reportedly a Amtrak train vs a Freight Train."

etc

Just advised me his deets from FD radio scan feed.

 

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Posted 12 May 2015 - 10:04 PM

Thanks for the update Steve, good to have a local that knows the territory and railroads as a source!

Ex Rep Murphy, D-PA. tweeted that a US Senator got off the train in Wilmington, missed the name?

MSNBC is ripping Amtrak for poor communication regarding the disaster!

Most likely the Senator's name starts with a C since our two Senator's and our rep all have last names starting with C.   :P

 

It was Carper that got off in Wilmington.


Edited by AmtrakBlue, 12 May 2015 - 10:07 PM.


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Posted 12 May 2015 - 10:04 PM

Location - train was going left to right on the tracks across the track. Most of the cars are in the grassy triangle below the tracks (outside the curve). ACS-64 is to the right of the footbridge.

https://www.google.c...m/data=!3m1!1e3

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Posted 12 May 2015 - 10:05 PM

ABC news (radio) is saying 60+ injured and "unconfirmed dead."

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Posted 12 May 2015 - 10:05 PM

Amtrak tends to be very safe overall. Portal bridge had a defect and was fixed after previous derailment, but I have not seen a cause to this crash. I myself tend to like Amtrak over bus on this route and I am hoping everyone is okay. Hundreds of transportation accidents occur all the time unfortunately.

Cause needs to be determined so they can fix the problem. With the Sprinters, it should have been hard to speed over the rails like this. Could have been a rail problem that was overlooked, a defect with the Sprinter, sabotage. I think conductor speeding is the least likely senario but it has happened before on other railroads, like metro north but amtrak generally has not had speeding problems.

i havent seen any CSX freight train images so I dont know if that was an issue.

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Posted 12 May 2015 - 10:06 PM

Lots of self-appointed experts have already posted lots of crap about what caused the wreck, what is wrong with Amtrak, how we should have a national maglev system, etc.  Obviously idiots.  Be careful what you believe. 

 

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