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#281 ainamkartma

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Posted 06 July 2018 - 04:43 PM

 

Front Range Limited from Denver to Albuquerque, numbers 411-416

 

Front Range Flyer is desperately needed, but should go Cheyenne-Fo Co-Longmont-Boulder-Denver-C Springs-Pueblo-Trinidad, not Denver to Albuquerque.  Just look at the highways: from Pueblo to Cheyenne, I-25 and all secondary roads are chronically backed up; from Trinidad to ABQ, very underutilized.  I don't think a mountain division train can compete when cars on the parallel highway are going 85 mph.

 

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Posted 06 July 2018 - 09:17 PM

 
Front Range Limited from Denver to Albuquerque, numbers 411-416

 
Front Range Flyer is desperately needed, but should go Cheyenne-Fo Co-Longmont-Boulder-Denver-C Springs-Pueblo-Trinidad, not Denver to Albuquerque.  Just look at the highways: from Pueblo to Cheyenne, I-25 and all secondary roads are chronically backed up; from Trinidad to ABQ, very underutilized.  I don't think a mountain division train can compete when cars on the parallel highway are going 85 mph.
 
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Thing is, the railroads are backed up around CO Springs, too.

Also, I'd think there'd be some passengers wanting to go from Denver to New Mexico without driving in traffic a third of the way. That can only happen if PTC is installed on NMRX tracks, though. Maybe send it up the slow & windy tracks from Lamy to Santa Fe :P

I have ridden Cascades #516 (SEA-STW), Coast Starlight #14 (LAX-SLO), Southwest Chief #4 (LAX-CHI), Cardinal #50 (CHI-NYP), Northeast Regional #85 (NYP-WAS), Capitol Limited #30 (HFY-WAS), Coast Starlight #14 (LAX-PDX), Coast Starlight #11 (SLO-LAX), and many Pacific Surfliners with Amtrak. I have observed, including the previous, California Zephyr #5 at SAC (lucky), what I guess to be Crescent #19 (at WAS) and Silver Meteor #97 (at WAS), Empire Builder #28 at PDX, and Sunset Limited #2/Texas Eagle #422 at LAX. I have also ridden the Hokutosei in Japan, Ueno - Sapporo (now discontinued).


#283 ainamkartma

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Posted 07 July 2018 - 05:44 PM

 

 

 
Front Range Limited from Denver to Albuquerque, numbers 411-416

 
Front Range Flyer is desperately needed, but should go Cheyenne-Fo Co-Longmont-Boulder-Denver-C Springs-Pueblo-Trinidad, not Denver to Albuquerque.  Just look at the highways: from Pueblo to Cheyenne, I-25 and all secondary roads are chronically backed up; from Trinidad to ABQ, very underutilized.  I don't think a mountain division train can compete when cars on the parallel highway are going 85 mph.
 
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Thing is, the railroads are backed up around CO Springs, too.

 

 

I would suggest that the most practical way to implement a Front Range Flyer is on new right of way...  because a passenger service which is busy competing with slow (and effectively unscheduled) freight drags can't compete effectively with the automobile.

 

Colorado has proven it is willing to build highways (E470, etc. etc.) and trains (Denver LRT and commuter rail) on new right of way in the modern era.  There is no absolute reason that model couldn't be extended to the Front Range Flyer.

 

The thing about the (Fo Co to Pueblo) Front Range Flyer is not that it would be easy to implement: it's that if it _were_ implemented properly, it would immediately be very heavily used.

 

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Posted 10 July 2018 - 08:02 PM

All I want is New Orleans to Orlando!
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Posted 11 July 2018 - 09:11 PM

All I want is for it to be easy to run some train cars down some track! I don't want to worry about bad accounting or expensive dining service or siding lengths or train safety (already safer than the ever-popular car) or funding shortages or bad CEOs. Just drive it down and lay down some concrete slabs for people to wait on! ;)

Edited by ParanoidAndroid, 11 July 2018 - 09:12 PM.

I have ridden Cascades #516 (SEA-STW), Coast Starlight #14 (LAX-SLO), Southwest Chief #4 (LAX-CHI), Cardinal #50 (CHI-NYP), Northeast Regional #85 (NYP-WAS), Capitol Limited #30 (HFY-WAS), Coast Starlight #14 (LAX-PDX), Coast Starlight #11 (SLO-LAX), and many Pacific Surfliners with Amtrak. I have observed, including the previous, California Zephyr #5 at SAC (lucky), what I guess to be Crescent #19 (at WAS) and Silver Meteor #97 (at WAS), Empire Builder #28 at PDX, and Sunset Limited #2/Texas Eagle #422 at LAX. I have also ridden the Hokutosei in Japan, Ueno - Sapporo (now discontinued).





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