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#121 Thirdrail7

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Posted 24 March 2018 - 02:16 PM

With the 8507 and the 8531 heading to Beech Grove, pickings are getting slim.

 

Here's what seems to be left:

 

Axle Count Bags:

1159
1709
1738
1753
1760
1761

 

Axle Count Diners:

8505
8530
8531
 

In Service Diner:

8510


Edited by Thirdrail7, 24 March 2018 - 02:17 PM.

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Posted 26 March 2018 - 08:54 AM

Which one was on the back end of the Cardinal arriving in Indy this morning? I saw a Heritage Diner but didn’t catch the number.


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Posted 26 March 2018 - 07:04 PM

Which one was on the back end of the Cardinal arriving in Indy this morning? I saw a Heritage Diner but didn’t catch the number.


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It was 8507 former Northern Pacific Budd built dining car No. 463 for the North Coast Limited (Chicago-Seattle/Portland) assembled in 1957. Also one of the cars with a complete Termossia rebuild. Likely going to the deadline at Beech Grove awaiting a buyer either for scrap, pv, tourist railroad, or the great white north.
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Posted 29 March 2018 - 10:05 AM

Which one was on the back end of the Cardinal arriving in Indy this morning? I saw a Heritage Diner but didn’t catch the number.


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It was 8507 former Northern Pacific Budd built dining car No. 463 for the North Coast Limited (Chicago-Seattle/Portland) assembled in 1957. Also one of the cars with a complete Termossia rebuild. Likely going to the deadline at Beech Grove awaiting a buyer either for scrap, pv, tourist railroad, or the great white north.
Had lunch and dinner in 8507 on the Fourth of July last year on the Crescent. I'm going to shed a tear with the retirement of the old diners.

Outside of axle count cars, the last run of a Heritage diner will mark the end of an era.

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Posted 29 March 2018 - 10:07 PM

 

 

Which one was on the back end of the Cardinal arriving in Indy this morning? I saw a Heritage Diner but didn’t catch the number.


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It was 8507 former Northern Pacific Budd built dining car No. 463 for the North Coast Limited (Chicago-Seattle/Portland) assembled in 1957. Also one of the cars with a complete Termossia rebuild. Likely going to the deadline at Beech Grove awaiting a buyer either for scrap, pv, tourist railroad, or the great white north.
Had lunch and dinner in 8507 on the Fourth of July last year on the Crescent. I'm going to shed a tear with the retirement of the old diners.

Outside of axle count cars, the last run of a Heritage diner will mark the end of an era.

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I was on #98 on Fourth of July last year and unfortunately ended up with a V-II diner. Had I been traveling one day earlier or later I would have gotten a Heritage diner, and I was pretty heartbroken about that. Yes, the old cars were kind of run down and were on their last legs, but they were beautiful and gave me a glimpse of the 'Golden Age of Rail' so long ago.

 

Goodbye Heritage Fleet, I will miss you. 


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Posted 12 May 2018 - 12:16 PM

8510 is headed for the Grove. No more heritage dining cars are available for dining.

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Posted 12 May 2018 - 12:47 PM

According to the on track roster, the heritage diners still on the rails will be on the Midwest routes as "axle-count" cars 

 

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10031: Dome car will remain. 


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Posted 12 May 2018 - 01:09 PM

8510 is headed for the Grove. No more heritage dining cars are available for dining.

RIP. Hopefully they'll do some nostalgia run in the future. 


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Posted 16 May 2018 - 05:34 PM

8510 was seen on 98(17) as it makes its way to the Grove. Additionally, the 8531 is not longer being used as an axle count car. The last diner is the 8530.


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Posted 16 May 2018 - 10:31 PM

 

8510 is headed for the Grove. No more heritage dining cars are available for dining.

RIP. Hopefully they'll do some nostalgia run in the future. 

 

I fear they will sit quietly on their storage track until scrapped or hopefully sold to private operators.


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Posted 17 May 2018 - 04:35 AM

I got a picture of 8510 today.  I was on 97, 8510 was deadheading on 98.


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Posted 18 May 2018 - 07:09 AM

I think a few of them (heritage bags) are used on trains w/o baggage service in the Midwest to bring some short consists up to minimum length required by one of the host railroads. CN comes to mind, but I might have that wrong. The number of bags in use can exceed the number of bags required for baggage service. The real number is how many are released for service, not delivered,  since a bunch are still being used for training, and not all have been released from Hialeah.


I saw three heratage cars (two of them were diners) on the tail end of a late running northbound Saluki on May 1st at Homewood. The seven car train had Charger 4614 on the lead.




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