Are you sure you have that right? My understanding is that most of those orange planes would simply be invisible outside of the US. If the US is being paranoid then why are they mandating ADS-B for commercial flights in controlled airspace to within a couple years of the EU's own mandate? Sorry but this just isn't adding up at all.It is more fascinating if you live outside the US though, because most of the information you see in the US (orange planes) comes from the FAA with a 5 minute delay, thanks to our overprotective (paranoid?) government.. while the yellow planes are realtime live above your head right now.
A quick perusal of the map of Europe shows that indeed almost all of the orange planes are invisible. They just show up over the US and Canada, with very few exceptions.Are you sure you have that right? My understanding is that most of those orange planes would simply be invisible outside of the US. If the US is being paranoid then why are they mandating ADS-B for commercial flights in controlled airspace to within a couple years of the EU's own mandate? Sorry but this just isn't adding up at all.It is more fascinating if you live outside the US though, because most of the information you see in the US (orange planes) comes from the FAA with a 5 minute delay, thanks to our overprotective (paranoid?) government.. while the yellow planes are realtime live above your head right now.
Yes, that is right. Europe and parts of Asia have adopted ADB-B bigtime so if you move your map to those parts of the world you will see every plane is yellow, that's all real time data- you can see the plane on the map, step out and look in the sky and the plane will be right there. US resisted going to ADS-B aggressively so a lot of planes operated by domestic US airlines show in orange based on FAA data that is 5 minutes delayed. If you see an orange plane on the map and go out to spot it, you won't see it because it would have passed you five minutes ago.Are you sure you have that right? My understanding is that most of those orange planes would simply be invisible outside of the US. If the US is being paranoid then why are they mandating ADS-B for commercial flights in controlled airspace to within a couple years of the EU's own mandate? Sorry but this just isn't adding up at all.It is more fascinating if you live outside the US though, because most of the information you see in the US (orange planes) comes from the FAA with a 5 minute delay, thanks to our overprotective (paranoid?) government.. while the yellow planes are realtime live above your head right now.
Can we stop trying to work backwards from your original conclusion for a moment?Yes, that is right. Europe and parts of Asia have adopted ADB-B bigtime so if you move your map to those parts of the world you will see every plane is yellow, that's all real time data- you can see the plane on the map, step out and look in the sky and the plane will be right there. US resisted going to ADS-B aggressively so a lot of planes operated by domestic US airlines show in orange based on FAA data that is 5 minutes delayed. If you see an orange plane on the map and go out to spot it, you won't see it because it would have passed you five minutes ago.Are you sure you have that right? My understanding is that most of those orange planes would simply be invisible outside of the US. If the US is being paranoid then why are they mandating ADS-B for commercial flights in controlled airspace to within a couple years of the EU's own mandate? Sorry but this just isn't adding up at all.It is more fascinating if you live outside the US though, because most of the information you see in the US (orange planes) comes from the FAA with a 5 minute delay, thanks to our overprotective (paranoid?) government.. while the yellow planes are realtime live above your head right now.
I never said who is providing more or less information, all I mentioned was the difference in getting real-time vs delayed information. If the US had adopted ADS-B on commercial planes as aggressively as Europe did, the skies above the US would be full of yellow planes that you can track in real-time, as opposed to the current state where you can still track non ADS-B (orange) planes over the US which is nice, but the downside is 5 minutes delayed so you can't use it to figure out "what plane is over my head" literally.Can we stop trying to work backwards from your original conclusion for a moment?Yes, that is right. Europe and parts of Asia have adopted ADB-B bigtime so if you move your map to those parts of the world you will see every plane is yellow, that's all real time data- you can see the plane on the map, step out and look in the sky and the plane will be right there. US resisted going to ADS-B aggressively so a lot of planes operated by domestic US airlines show in orange based on FAA data that is 5 minutes delayed. If you see an orange plane on the map and go out to spot it, you won't see it because it would have passed you five minutes ago.
But for now the US appears to be providing as much if not more information than most other governments and they're only a couple years behind the EU in mandating ADS-B for most commercial flights.
Or possibly for technical reasons that the techs like to blame on security reasonsHave you considered that the 5 minute delay may not be for security but for technical reasons?
I can relate to that!!.......I find it fascinating, especially given that A) I have no life and B) it takes very little to amuse/entertain me.
Nice to see I'm not the only lifeless one around? :lol: Where I live, in southeastern Washington, there actually isn't a tremendous amount of air traffic. Mainly Alaska Airlines flights from Seattle to such exotic places as Bozeman and Billings, Montana. Or occasional Southwest or Delta airlines flights to/from Spokane and Salt Lake City or Denver. I have the phone app too and I take it along on my nightly walk. I live on my town's main street, which lies at the bottom of a steep, narrow canyon, and my stroll takes me to the top of the canyon, some 500 feet or so above the main drag, and I get of course a much better view of the sky from there. As I said, there isn't a whole lot of action right here, really, though I have seen flights from San Francisco to Dubai on Emerites Airlines and Vancouver to Varadaro, Cuba on SunWing Airlines. My mother lives about 25 miles northwest of me and there is quite a bit more air traffic where she lives, with a lot of flights to/from Vancouver and Seattle and O'Hare or JFK.I can relate to that!!.......I find it fascinating, especially given that A) I have no life and B) it takes very little to amuse/entertain me.
I have the FlightRadar App on my phone and it’s great to sit out on the deck (beer in hand) on a summer evening and watch the steady stream of transatlantic flights. I live in the Canadian Maritimes and just about everything between the northeast US and Europe goes overhead...... and with this App, I now have all the details on what I’m seeing. Perhaps an Air France A380......75 minutes out of JFK heading for an arrival at CDG in about 5 1\2 hours or a British Airways 777 bound for London.
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