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#21 RTE_TrainGuy

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Posted 20 February 2014 - 04:11 PM

Hmm, looks like I can't update my OP any more times. Anyone know a fix?

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Posted 20 February 2014 - 04:12 PM

Is there any logical reason that Amtrak does not include this information on their published schedules?


If I were to be cynical, I would suggest that the people preparing the published schedules do not actually have this information. Large organizations often have a "left hand doesn't know what the right hand is doing" problem.

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Posted 20 February 2014 - 04:16 PM

Lunch is served on the westbound Lake Shore from Boston.  Dinner for the passengers on 449 is served after departing from Albany. 


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Posted 20 February 2014 - 07:22 PM

Well, Amtrak does have this on the LSL schedule:

"Dining: Full meal service between New York and Chicago. Not available between Albany and Boston; Sleeping car passengers will receive complimentary hot Lounge car meal service.

Lounge: Sandwiches, snacks and beverages. (Note—Combined Diner/ Lounge provides food and beverage service between New York and Albany)."

Does that not cover it?

Edited by D.P. Roberts, 20 February 2014 - 07:23 PM.

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Routes traveled: Capitol Limited, California Zephyr, Lake Shore Limited, Southwest Chief, Coast Starlight, Empire Builder, Pacific Surfliner, and Silver Meteor.
 


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Posted 20 February 2014 - 07:29 PM

And now something completely different: Via Rail's Canadian (#2) eastbound from Vancouver to Toronto. No dinner departing Vancouver, but a champagne reception in the end-of-train dome observation car. Then breakfast, lunch, dinner, continental breakfast, brunch, dinner, breakfast, lunch, dinner, breakfast. On my train last week, 2(14), we received another lunch from a shortened menu, due to 8-hr late arrival into Toronto.


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Posted 20 February 2014 - 08:08 PM

If this can be turned into a wiki thread, that might make more sense.


This is a good idea as well, and something I've been starting to pull together in my "spare" time. Nowhere near ready for prime time yet, but I'm hoping to have at least an outline put together "soon" so that we can go to work filling in details like this.
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Posted 20 February 2014 - 08:30 PM

Silver Star Southbound NYP-Miami: lunch, dinner, breakfast, lunch



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Posted 20 February 2014 - 09:22 PM

CONO Southbound:

Dinner (abbreviated, service generally begins before the train pulls from the station)

Breakfast

Lunch


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Posted 20 February 2014 - 10:41 PM

I know that the northbound CS leaves LA too late for breakfast, but I just read a travelogue that stated that the PPC had pastries/muffins available at departure. Is this still in effect?

Edited by D.P. Roberts, 20 February 2014 - 10:42 PM.

Amtrak miles: 23,182
Routes traveled: Capitol Limited, California Zephyr, Lake Shore Limited, Southwest Chief, Coast Starlight, Empire Builder, Pacific Surfliner, and Silver Meteor.
 


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Posted 20 February 2014 - 11:32 PM

Well, Amtrak does have this on the LSL schedule:

"Dining: Full meal service between New York and Chicago. Not available between Albany and Boston; Sleeping car passengers will receive complimentary hot Lounge car meal service.

Lounge: Sandwiches, snacks and beverages. (Note—Combined Diner/ Lounge provides food and beverage service between New York and Albany)."

Does that not cover it?

Well, that doesn't seem to be correct, because the combined diner/lounge wasn't providing food or beverage service between New York and Albany eastbound.  Unless it's new since the last time I rode NY-Albany on the LSL (which was a few years back).  Any recent (say, 2013) reports on the status of cafe car service on the eastbound between NY and Albany?



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Posted 20 February 2014 - 11:43 PM

Sunset Limited:

Westbound = Lunch, Dinner, Breakfast, Lunch, Dinner

Eastbound = Breakfast, Lunch, Dinner, Breakfast, Lunch, Dinner

 

Crescent:

Southbound = Dinner, Breakfast, Lunch, Dinner

Northbound = Breakfast, Lunch, Dinner, Breakfast

 

City of New Orleans:

Southbound = Dinner, Breakfast, Lunch

Northbound = Dinner, Breakfast

 

Texas Eagle:

Westbound = Dinner, Breakfast, Lunch, Dinner

Eastbound = Breakfast, Lunch, Dinner, Breakfast, Lunch


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Amtrak: City of New Orleans, Crescent, Empire Builder, California Zephyr, Southwest Chief, Sunset Limited, Coast Starlight, Gulf Coast Limited (Retired), Cascades, Capitol Limited, Northeast Regional, Adirondack, Vermonter, Acela Express, Downeaster, Cardinal, Maple Leaf, Texas Eagle, Wolverine, Silver Star, Silver Meteor, Pennsylvanian, Lake Shore Limited

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Posted 21 February 2014 - 12:49 AM

I know that the northbound CS leaves LA too late for breakfast, but I just read a travelogue that stated that the PPC had pastries/muffins available at departure. Is this still in effect?

I've never noticed any goodies out of LA although it's possible I went to the PPC too late.



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Posted 21 February 2014 - 01:17 AM

I think that's been discontinued at least those boarding in LA now have whatever breakfast items the Metropolitan Lounge sets out. I've only been there in the evening and it was a nice selection of cookies, not the normal pretzels chips or gold fish (goldfish everywhere except NYP).


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Posted 21 February 2014 - 01:52 AM

To consolidate some information which arrived in several different posts:
Lake Shore Limited #449 Westbound: Boxed Lunch, Dinner, Breakfast
Lake Shore Limited #49 Westbound: Dinner, Breakfast

OK, that's almost all of them. We're just missing:
Cardinal eastbound
Silver Meteor northbound
Silver Star northbound
Auto Train

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Posted 21 February 2014 - 07:13 AM

Auto train is dinner and breakfast both ways.

Cardinal eastbound is dinner out of CHI and then all 3 meals the next day.


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Posted 21 February 2014 - 08:43 AM

Is there any logical reason that Amtrak does not include this information on their published schedules?


I think an accurate list, would need to include all possibilities of the train running early or running late. And let's face the fact that LD trains do indeed run off-schedule quite often.

This is also why I feel that the first post here is so very wrong for not including such. For example, if the train is suppose to pick you up at 5pm, you'll get dinner. But if the train doesn't pick you up until 9pm, you don't get dinner (but the first post here implies that Amtrak "owes" you a dinner, and will hold the dining car open just for you).

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Posted 21 February 2014 - 08:58 AM

On 448 and 449 the meal between Albany and Boston is not a "boxed meal" per se.  It is a choice between a salad or a sandwich in each direction (one of the choices is a vegetarian option).

 

448 - Breakfast, Lunch, Limited menu dinner served in the cafe car.

449 - Limited menu lunch served in the cafe car, Dinner (after joining the NY section at Albany), Breakfast

 

I've made this run twice in the last 3 years, same both runs.



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Posted 21 February 2014 - 09:11 AM

The on-line menus (448, 449) make it out more like a meal served on the Cardinal, the Lake Shore has the same equipment:

 

448: A hot (microwaved) dinner: Vegetarian Pasta or Braised Beef Short Rib with Wine Sauce

449: A sandwich or salad, less exciting.


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Posted 21 February 2014 - 09:23 AM

Wouldn't early / late just be simple logic?  I Think it would muddy a table,,, but then again my graphic guru is Tufte who preaches simplicity. Once the data is collected I would love to take a shot into making it into an image. I am already envisioning a cascading red/green/blue with standard set of labels  (L-Limited, B-box). turning it into a nice 4"x 4". Set  it so the longest trains were at the bottom,,, I am way too sick in too many ways,,,, 


The California Zephyr  The Cardinal The Capital Limited  The City of New Orleans

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Posted 22 February 2014 - 02:40 AM

The way to present this is to present the standard "Amtrak meal hours" first.

Then say:

Many trains are scheduled to depart their initial station during one of these mealtimes, or arrive at the final station during one of these mealtimes. People often ask whether they will get a meal in this case, and this varies by train. The following is a listing the meals *normally served* if you are travelling from end to end on the train.

If the train is running late, you may get fewer meals -- you will *not* generally get extra meals beyond these, although the crew will provide emergency food in extreme cases.




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