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#41 CHamilton

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Posted 24 July 2013 - 11:10 AM

Quebec derailment fallout: Efforts to improve rail safety emerge in Canada, U.S.

 

Transport Canada yesterday announced it issued an emergency directive aimed at improving rail safety in the wake of the Montreal, Maine & Atlantic Railway derailment that occurred July 6 in Lac-Mégantic, Quebec.


Although the accident's cause remains unknown, Transport Canada is trying to build upon the safety advisories it received last week from the Transportation Safety Board of Canada (TSB) and further enhance existing rail safety and security measures, Transport Canada officials said in a prepared statement.

Effective immediately, all Canadian railroads are required to ensure that:
• no locomotive attached to one or more loaded tank cars transporting hazardous materials is operated with fewer than two qualified persons on a main track or siding;
• no locomotive attached to one or more loaded haz-mat tank cars is left unattended on a main track;
• all unattended controlling locomotives on a main track and sidings are protected from unauthorized entry into the cab;
• directional controls are removed from any unattended locomotives, preventing them from moving forward or backward, on a main track or siding;
• individual special instructions on hand brakes are applied to any locomotive attached to one or more cars that are left unattended for more than one hour on a main track or sidings; and 
• the automatic brake is set in full-service position and the independent brake is fully applied for any locomotive attached to one or more cars that are left unattended for one hour or less on a main track or sidings.
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The accident has prompted a call for improved rail safety in the United States, too. Sen. Charles Schumer (D-N.Y.) on Monday announced he sent a letter to the U.S. Department of Transportation urging the agency to require freight railroads to draft a plan to retrofit or phase-out "DOT-111" tank cars, which were involved in the Quebec derailment.

The tank cars "have proven to be flawed, out of date and a factor in hazardous material spills during derailments," said Schumer in a prepared statement. The Quebec derailment in combination with increased crude-oil shipments along New York railways to the Port of Albany creates an urgency for a corresponding increase in freight-rail safety measures in the state, which must be implemented through the Federal Railroad Administration and Pipeline and Hazardous Materials Safety Administration regulatory processes later this year, he said.

DOT-111 tank cars are not pressurized like DOT-105 or DOT-112 cars that have thicker shells and heads, and are less prone to breaching during a derailment, said Schumer, who also wrote a letter to the Association of American Railroads urging its cooperation in retrofitting or phasing-out DOT-111 cars.


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Posted 24 July 2013 - 11:23 AM

TRANSPORT Canada announced on July 23 that it will ban one-person train crews in response to the derailment and explosion of a freight train at Lac-Mégantic, Quebec on July 6, which killed at least 47 people.

Transport Canada also said trains with dangerous goods would not be allowed to be left unattended on any main line track, and that hand brakes must be applied to trains left for one hour or more.

 


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Posted 24 July 2013 - 06:04 PM

Are one-person train crews allowed in the US?



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Posted 24 July 2013 - 06:30 PM

Are one-person train crews allowed in the US?

 

Yes....at least they were. The Montreal, Maine & Atlantic had one person crews operating in Maine before they were permitted on the portion of the railway in Canada.



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Posted 30 July 2013 - 08:17 AM

Looks like MM&A might shutd down. preparations are affot for that eventuality....

http://www.theglobea...rticle13492300/

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Posted 03 August 2013 - 11:43 PM

Are one-person train crews allowed in the US?

 

Yes....at least they were. The Montreal, Maine & Atlantic had one person crews operating in Maine before they were permitted on the portion of the railway in Canada.

 

Doesn't Amtrak operate with one-person crews all the time? I thought the firemen are gone by now in the US.

 

Looks like MM&A might shutd down. preparations are affot for that eventuality....

http://www.theglobea...rticle13492300/

 

That was expected. Too bad it probably means the Atlantic is absolutely dead, and the line may get abandoned.


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Posted 04 August 2013 - 11:10 AM



Are one-person train crews allowed in the US?

 
Yes....at least they were. The Montreal, Maine & Atlantic had one person crews operating in Maine before they were permitted on the portion of the railway in Canada.


 
Doesn't Amtrak operate with one-person crews all the time? I thought the firemen are gone by now in the US.



No. Amtrak operates with a mix. Yes, there are probably more trains that operate without a fireman thanks to the corridor services. But there are still Amtrak trains that run with both an engineer and a fireman.
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Posted 04 August 2013 - 12:45 PM

And all Amtrak trains have at least one conductor....


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Posted 04 August 2013 - 01:14 PM

Amtrak operates trains that run shorter trip of six hours or less with Omer person in the cab.

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Posted 04 August 2013 - 07:36 PM


 

Are one-person train crews allowed in the US?

 
Yes....at least they were. The Montreal, Maine & Atlantic had one person crews operating in Maine before they were permitted on the portion of the railway in Canada.

 

 
Doesn't Amtrak operate with one-person crews all the time? I thought the firemen are gone by now in the US.

 


No. Amtrak operates with a mix. Yes, there are probably more trains that operate without a fireman thanks to the corridor services. But there are still Amtrak trains that run with both an engineer and a fireman.

 

But I thought the EB was the only train that still had a fireman. Do other LD trains still have one?


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Posted 04 August 2013 - 07:46 PM


But I thought the EB was the only train that still had a fireman. Do other LD trains still have one?
 

Any train where the operating crew runs more than 6 hours.
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Posted 04 August 2013 - 07:57 PM


But I thought the EB was the only train that still had a fireman. Do other LD trains still have one?


Any train where the operating crew runs more than 6 hours.
 


Right only for the crew districts that are longer than 6 hours. Not every crew district of the train.

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Posted 05 August 2013 - 07:35 PM


But I thought the EB was the only train that still had a fireman. Do other LD trains still have one?
 


Any train where the operating crew runs more than 6 hours.
 

 

Right only for the crew districts that are longer than 6 hours. Not every crew district of the train.

 

Is there many crew districts over 6 hours? If it's that low, I expect quite a bit. Any examples of this?


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Posted 06 August 2013 - 07:53 AM

Whatever there is is out west AFAICT. I can't think of any east of Chicago.



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Posted 06 August 2013 - 11:30 AM

Whatever there is is out west AFAICT. I can't think of any east of Chicago.

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Posted 06 August 2013 - 08:29 PM

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Posted 06 August 2013 - 08:44 PM

What's the next crew change south of ATL?  I'm pretty sure I saw 2 guys getting out of the cab when we were waiting last time (of course it could have been a trainee or something too).


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Posted 06 August 2013 - 09:56 PM

Coming to think of it both 91/92 and 97/98 have two man crew from Jacksonville to/from Hamlet and Florence respectively too. Also 97/98 has Jacksonville to Miami.

 

For 19/20 crew change points are Charlottsville, Charlotte, Atlanta, Meridian


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Posted 06 August 2013 - 11:23 PM

So there is a lot of routes that still have a fireman. This is good, always makes people feel secure. Many train accidents could have been avoided with two in the cab, the other one to watch out for problems. But the Hinton crash was really weird, the CN ran the duo-red anyway.


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Posted 07 August 2013 - 03:29 PM

MM&A has filed for bankruptcy....

http://www.theepocht...tic-derailment/




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