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Gfoley4

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Today, I just received an email from Amtrak. It said:

"Our records indicate that you were originally scheduled to depart on Amtrak traveling from Chicago-ILLINOIS to Washington-DISTRICT-OF-COLUMBIA.

That schedule has changed.
 
You will depart on Amtrak Train number 0030 from Chicago-ILLINOIS on Thursday August 2 at 7:10PM and arrive in Washington-DISTRICT-OF-COLUMBIA on Friday August 3 at 3:10PM."
 
 
What's the reason for this?
 
Gfoley4 said:
Today, I just received an email from Amtrak. It said:

"Our records indicate that you were originally scheduled to depart on Amtrak traveling from Chicago-ILLINOIS to Washington-DISTRICT-OF-COLUMBIA.

That schedule has changed.
 
You will depart on Amtrak Train number 0030 from Chicago-ILLINOIS on Thursday August 2 at 7:10PM and arrive in Washington-DISTRICT-OF-COLUMBIA on Friday August 3 at 3:10PM."
 
 
What's the reason for this?
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I wonder if the CSX work is now completed? The Capitol Limited eastbound schedule was moved up last summer to accommodate work being done by CSX. If the work is now done, moving the schedule back would make connections in Chicago from the western inbound trains a bit easier.

The change is effective today (7/31).
 
PRR 60 said:
Gfoley4 said:
Today, I just received an email from Amtrak. It said:

"Our records indicate that you were originally scheduled to depart on Amtrak traveling from Chicago-ILLINOIS to Washington-DISTRICT-OF-COLUMBIA.

That schedule has changed.
 
You will depart on Amtrak Train number 0030 from Chicago-ILLINOIS on Thursday August 2 at 7:10PM and arrive in Washington-DISTRICT-OF-COLUMBIA on Friday August 3 at 3:10PM."
 
 
What's the reason for this?
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I wonder if the CSX work is now completed? The Capitol Limited eastbound schedule was moved up last summer to accommodate work being done by CSX. If the work is now done, moving the schedule back would make connections in Chicago from the western inbound trains a bit easier.

The change is effective today (7/31).
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The Amtrak timetable still shows 610P-1240P. Note that while 710P is one hour later than 610P, your 310P is much later, two hours thirty minutes later.
 
Swadian Hardcore said:
The Amtrak timetable still shows 610P-1240P. Note that while 710P is one hour later than 610P, your 310P is much later, two hours thirty minutes later.
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Check the booking feature. You'll see the times changed today. The new times run through 8/21, then revert back to the 6:10pm departure.
 
*phew!*

I was afraid that Amtrak was switching around the departures for the the Cap and LSL. There's been talk of doing this for a while, and I'm really worried about it coming to pass.
 
PRR 60 said:
Swadian Hardcore said:
The Amtrak timetable still shows 610P-1240P. Note that while 710P is one hour later than 610P, your 310P is much later, two hours thirty minutes later.
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Check the booking feature. You'll see the times changed today. The new times run through 8/21, then revert back to the 6:10pm departure.
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What I'm confused about why the CL loses 1:30 between CHI and WAS.
 
Swadian Hardcore said:
PRR 60 said:
Swadian Hardcore said:
The Amtrak timetable still shows 610P-1240P. Note that while 710P is one hour later than 610P, your 310P is much later, two hours thirty minutes later.
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Check the booking feature. You'll see the times changed today. The new times run through 8/21, then revert back to the 6:10pm departure.
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What I'm confused about why the CL loses 1:30 between CHI and WAS.
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That's puzzling to me too. Also, If I try to book another ticket for August 2nd on the Cap, it still shows the "service alert" for the CSX construction.
 
To the OP. I received the same e-mail myself. I will actualy be on your train from Toledo to Harpers Ferry. I just did a little research and found the following...

#30 will be departing 1 hour later at all stations from Chicago to Alliance, Oh. It will depart Pittsburgh and Connelsville,PA 1.5 hours later. And Cumberland, Md, Martinsburg and Harpers Ferry W.V. 2.5 hours late. This must have something to do with the track work in the Cumberland, Md region.
 
amtrakmichigan said:
To the OP. I received the same e-mail myself. I will actualy be on your train from Toledo to Harpers Ferry. I just did a little research and found the following...

#30 will be departing 1 hour later at all stations from Chicago to Alliance, Oh. It will depart Pittsburgh and Connelsville,PA 1.5 hours later. And Cumberland, Md, Martinsburg and Harpers Ferry W.V. 2.5 hours late. This must have something to do with the track work in the Cumberland, Md region.
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I guess we'll find out! Thanks for the help.
 
I am looking forward to when the CSX work is officially complete. According to one of Amtrak's Performance Improvement Plans, when CSX completes its renovations, Amtrak will let train 30 leave Chicago around 7:30 pm, which would lead to a "better, post-dawn, arrival time" in Pittsburgh (~6 am by current schedule estimates).
 
I understand there is some emergency trackwork on CSX necessitating this brief change.
 
TML said:
I am looking forward to when the CSX work is officially complete. According to one of Amtrak's Performance Improvement Plans, when CSX completes its renovations, Amtrak will let train 30 leave Chicago around 7:30 pm, which would lead to a "better, post-dawn, arrival time" in Pittsburgh (~6 am by current schedule estimates).
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That will be interesting. I just...I really find it a pity that at that point there's going to be no EB train from the Midwest with even a pass at a midday arrival. WB, you can currently get to CHI without a "lost day", but coming back you'll lose one now.
 
Anderson said:
TML said:
I am looking forward to when the CSX work is officially complete. According to one of Amtrak's Performance Improvement Plans, when CSX completes its renovations, Amtrak will let train 30 leave Chicago around 7:30 pm, which would lead to a "better, post-dawn, arrival time" in Pittsburgh (~6 am by current schedule estimates).
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That will be interesting. I just...I really find it a pity that at that point there's going to be no EB train from the Midwest with even a pass at a midday arrival. WB, you can currently get to CHI without a "lost day", but coming back you'll lose one now.
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Yeah that is a shame. I thought that with the change the CL would be pushed back closer to the CONO time of 8:00 or around there, the LSL would take 6:15ish (giving a dinnertime Boston arrival - hope they still provide the cafe meals they were just as good as diner food) and then the CL - Pennsy switch would still be able to occur on-time. I thought it would be pushed later than 7:30 first do that they would be more staggered and not cannibalize each other from CHI-Cleveland and then also for the secondary purpose of being able to carry pax from late westbound trains (not a states reason but not one to rule out and probably has been considered).
 
johnny.menhennet said:
Anderson said:
TML said:
I am looking forward to when the CSX work is officially complete. According to one of Amtrak's Performance Improvement Plans, when CSX completes its renovations, Amtrak will let train 30 leave Chicago around 7:30 pm, which would lead to a "better, post-dawn, arrival time" in Pittsburgh (~6 am by current schedule estimates).
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That will be interesting. I just...I really find it a pity that at that point there's going to be no EB train from the Midwest with even a pass at a midday arrival. WB, you can currently get to CHI without a "lost day", but coming back you'll lose one now.
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Yeah that is a shame. I thought that with the change the CL would be pushed back closer to the CONO time of 8:00 or around there, the LSL would take 6:15ish (giving a dinnertime Boston arrival - hope they still provide the cafe meals they were just as good as diner food) and then the CL - Pennsy switch would still be able to occur on-time. I thought it would be pushed later than 7:30 first do that they would be more staggered and not cannibalize each other from CHI-Cleveland and then also for the secondary purpose of being able to carry pax from late westbound trains (not a states reason but not one to rule out and probably has been considered).
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The plan (as specified in the PIP) is to have 48 leave Chicago at ~6:00 pm and 30 at ~7:30 pm. Aside from improving the arrival time for 30 in Pittsburgh, it would also let 48 arrive in New York at ~3:00 pm, just before rush hour (if 48 left Chicago at ~7:30 pm, its arrival time in New York would run into rush hour traffic congestion at Penn Station).
 
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TML said:
johnny.menhennet said:
Anderson said:
TML said:
I am looking forward to when the CSX work is officially complete. According to one of Amtrak's Performance Improvement Plans, when CSX completes its renovations, Amtrak will let train 30 leave Chicago around 7:30 pm, which would lead to a "better, post-dawn, arrival time" in Pittsburgh (~6 am by current schedule estimates).
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That will be interesting. I just...I really find it a pity that at that point there's going to be no EB train from the Midwest with even a pass at a midday arrival. WB, you can currently get to CHI without a "lost day", but coming back you'll lose one now.
Click to expand...
Yeah that is a shame. I thought that with the change the CL would be pushed back closer to the CONO time of 8:00 or around there, the LSL would take 6:15ish (giving a dinnertime Boston arrival - hope they still provide the cafe meals they were just as good as diner food) and then the CL - Pennsy switch would still be able to occur on-time. I thought it would be pushed later than 7:30 first do that they would be more staggered and not cannibalize each other from CHI-Cleveland and then also for the secondary purpose of being able to carry pax from late westbound trains (not a states reason but not one to rule out and probably has been considered).
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The plan (as specified in the PIP) is to have 48 leave Chicago at ~6:00 pm and 30 at ~7:30 pm. Aside from improving the arrival time for 30 in Pittsburgh, it would also let 48 arrive in New York at ~3:00 pm, just before rush hour (if 48 left Chicago at ~7:30 pm, its arrival time in New York would run into rush hour traffic congestion at Penn Station).
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One advantage to the proposed LSL change would also be a sensible time arriving into Boston. Twice I've arrived, from Cleveland, on a late LSL into Boston after the last commuter train to the north had departed from North Station under the present timetable. I also take the CL frequently to DC so the proposed schedule change for it will be worse for those of us departing eastbound from Cleveland. Oh well, there is always the new Cleveland casino in which to kill time.
 
Interesting-I just booked a December trip involving the Capitol Limited on Tuesday afternoon of the 31'st, and my itenerary/Eticket shows 6:10/12:40 departure/arrival. Haven't gotten a call or email on a change yet. Kinda bummed, we were looking forward to the nearly 7 hours layover in Washington to see some things, before going south on the Meteor. The new schedule will not give us a lot of time now....
 
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The new schedule is just temporary, for three weeks, while CSX repairs a tunnel.
 
Well if it's generally going to be 6:00P and 7:30P departures there will now not be even one sensible arrival in Cleveland. The current LSL time is the closest thing to a decent Cleveland time.
 
johnny.menhennet said:
Well if it's generally going to be 6:00P and 7:30P departures there will now not be even one sensible arrival in Cleveland. The current LSL time is the closest thing to a decent Cleveland time.
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Cleveland has never had good times on the Cap (or the LSL, really) as far as I can tell. There, it's more "somebody gets the short end of the stick on an overnight train" than anything.
 
Anderson said:
johnny.menhennet said:
Well if it's generally going to be 6:00P and 7:30P departures there will now not be even one sensible arrival in Cleveland. The current LSL time is the closest thing to a decent Cleveland time.
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Cleveland has never had good times on the Cap (or the LSL, really) as far as I can tell. There, it's more "somebody gets the short end of the stick on an overnight train" than anything.
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I agree, same goes for Cincinnati (as Amtrak mentioned in the Cardinal's PIP, attempting to drastically improve the Cardinal's calling times in Cincinnati would result in connections with long-distance trains west of Chicago being lost). With both Cleveland and Cincinnati being served during extremely early morning hours by currently operating trains, it's a shame that Gov. Kasich put the brakes on the 3C train. I can only hope that his successor can resurrect 3C.
 
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No wonder the eTicket I picked up the other day says the train leaves at 7:05pm. The app still has the old schedule for my reservation. Im taking the CL back to New York on Sunday night and planned a 23.5 hour layover in DC (booked on the Lynchburger at noon without realizing it, woder if getting a window seat will be an issue) to get a $7 I think fare up to New York. I wonder if calling Amtrak will let me change my regional to a 3pm time (I'm trying to maximize my layover without paying the regular Regional fare).
 
Anderson said:
*phew!*

I was afraid that Amtrak was switching around the departures for the the Cap and LSL. There's been talk of doing this for a while, and I'm really worried about it coming to pass.
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Why would they do that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!??????????????? :wacko:
 
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