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#1601 me_little_me

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Posted 16 August 2017 - 08:35 PM

 

So will we be able to be on it?

 

The latest seems to be near the end of the year. We'll be in Ft. Lauderdale taking a cruise and only have Nov 25th and 26th to try it out as we return via Amtrak on the 27th. We'd sure love to take a spin in it.

I have no idea. Hopefully I'll know more about it after 23rd of Sept FECRS Convention which will have a major set of tours and events with Brightline.

 

My guess, after a quick visit to the construction site of Miami Central Stations, is that Miami Central still has at least a couple more months of construction work to go before it becomes ready for prime time.

 

Thanks. We'll be happy with FTL to WPB if they decide to open that before Miami is finished.



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Posted 23 August 2017 - 07:13 AM

So I'm sure this has been discussed already somewhere in the previous 80 pages, but I understand the initial consists will be two locos and four coaches? First class and a diner a part of this? The most important question is, how many coaches can the platforms hold? And, if, say they can only hold 10 max, is there room beyond the platform for the loco's to overhang for a 10+2 consist should demand require it in the future?

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Posted 23 August 2017 - 10:24 AM

No Diner.

 

Can't answer the second question for another few weeks. Will know the details after attending the FECRS Annual Conference in Miami third weekend of September.



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Posted 25 August 2017 - 08:47 AM

I would assume an actual diner is not anywhere in the plans, although I assume eventually snack service will become available when the route expands to Orlando or Jax.
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Posted 25 August 2017 - 09:23 AM

Brightline's already got pictures of snacks, but I've been wondering how you could fit even a snack into the time it takes to get, say, from West Palm Beach to Fort Lauderdale. I know we're not used to getting anywhere so fast (on Amtrak) that there's no time for a dining car meal, but no way we can do it on Brightline--this will be completely new territory for us! :P


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Posted 25 August 2017 - 09:24 AM

I would assume an actual diner is not anywhere in the plans, although I assume eventually snack service will become available when the route expands to Orlando or Jax.

That is my understanding. But I will know more after attending the FECRS Annual Meeting the third weekend of Sept.

For the WPM - MC service there is no food service car.

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Posted 25 August 2017 - 11:17 AM

I think, although I might be wrong, that they were showing pictures of snacks they would hand out to first-class passengers (not a food service car, just an attendant handing out the snacks). But even then, that would be hard to do in a half-hour trip unless they throw the snacks out after you as you detrain :P.



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Posted 27 August 2017 - 08:02 PM

I think, although I might be wrong, that they were showing pictures of snacks they would hand out to first-class passengers (not a food service car, just an attendant handing out the snacks). But even then, that would be hard to do in a half-hour trip unless they throw the snacks out after you as you detrain :P.

If they're getting snacks I don't see why the passengers travelling 1 1/2 hours+ on the A train in New York can't also get food service.

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Posted 27 August 2017 - 09:53 PM

They can.

Just as soon as NY state decides to pay for the service.
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Posted 27 August 2017 - 11:09 PM

Not to go off topic, but we'll be lucky if the Second Avenue Subway even gets completed in our life time. Although, technically food service for the subway is more or less covered by news stands at select subway stations, if you consider candy and snacks food along with sodas, juice, and water for drinks. It's not exactly glamorous, but it's what the MTA can do at it's current form.


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Posted 29 August 2017 - 11:10 AM

 

I think, although I might be wrong, that they were showing pictures of snacks they would hand out to first-class passengers (not a food service car, just an attendant handing out the snacks). But even then, that would be hard to do in a half-hour trip unless they throw the snacks out after you as you detrain :P.

If they're getting snacks I don't see why the passengers travelling 1 1/2 hours+ on the A train in New York can't also get food service.

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As soon as you pay as much for the A train as you will for Brightline, you will get food included.



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Posted 18 September 2017 - 05:59 PM

Here is the program for the FECRS Annual Convention this coming weekend:
 
http://mailchi.mp/7a...-is-open-178505
 
Unfortunately the tours are now closed, fully subscribed. We have an entire day of tours covering Brightline, including visit to their WPB Shops including train sets, as well as the WPB Station.
 
While at it I am acquiring my own head gear, protective eye gear and safety vest, as well as a Convention shirt of course.
 
Will keep all posted on what I see and learn.
 
BTW, FECR and AAF have created a jointly owned subsidiary named Florida Dispatch Company, which is taking over all dispatching duties on FECR and AAF trackage.

Edited by jis, 19 September 2017 - 08:29 AM.


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Posted 25 September 2017 - 11:16 AM

Here are some pictures that I took at the Brightline facilities in West Palm Beach.

 

Brightline rolling stock at their maintenance facility:

 

https://www.facebook...&type=3

 

Brightline West Palm Beach Station:

 

https://www.facebook...&type=3

 

Hopefully the photos are visible to all.



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Posted 26 September 2017 - 09:21 AM

Very nice! Thanks for sharing!

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Posted 27 September 2017 - 05:05 PM

Bright red is on its way from California to Florida....

 

http://gobrightline....-south-florida/



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Posted 28 September 2017 - 06:10 PM

Thanks for the pics Jis, I can now confirm I will never ride brightline. Not going to put up with tsa-style antics.


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Posted 28 September 2017 - 06:45 PM

Thanks for the pics Jis, I can now confirm I will never ride brightline. Not going to put up with tsa-style antics.

This is starting to become more common for High Speed Services in Europe (thanks to terrorism fears). It's an incredibly painless process, especially compared to TSA. You put your baggage on the belt and pick it up on the other side, you personally don't get checked. Hopefully they make it painless.


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Posted 28 September 2017 - 08:24 PM

The caption indicates they're using millimeter wave scanners, no reason to use that technology except on people.


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Posted 29 September 2017 - 12:19 AM

Thanks for the pics Jis, I can now confirm I will never ride brightline. Not going to put up with tsa-style antics.

This is starting to become more common for High Speed Services in Europe (thanks to terrorism fears). It's an incredibly painless process, especially compared to TSA. You put your baggage on the belt and pick it up on the other side, you personally don't get checked. Hopefully they make it painless.
The bags go through standard X-ray scan on the belt. You walk between two innocuous looking posts that are about four and a half to five feet tall and that is the millimeter wave scanner. You can walk through it without emptying your pockets or anything like that. See the photo that I have at West Palm Beach station that has the bag belt in it. The posts next to it is the mm wave scanner.


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Posted 02 October 2017 - 10:45 AM

Brightline's already got pictures of snacks, but I've been wondering how you could fit even a snack into the time it takes to get, say, from West Palm Beach to Fort Lauderdale. I know we're not used to getting anywhere so fast (on Amtrak) that there's no time for a dining car meal, but no way we can do it on Brightline--this will be completely new territory for us! :P

 

I have purchased stuff from the cafe car on the Northeast Regional on trips between Washington and Baltimore.  

 

Back in 1975, I used to ride the Merchant's Limited between Philadelphia and New York and was able to have a full sit-down dining car meal served to me while the train was traveling between Trenton and Newark.






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