Steve P.
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Does anyone know of any link or other resource that shows where the tunnels are on the CZ?
Tunnels on the California Zephyr
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Ben_G
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I would say most are between Denver and Winter Park if that helps.
Steve P.
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Thanks for your reply and that does help. I was hoping maybe for a map or something that shows just where they are. I figured out where the Moffat tunnel is and also where the one around Mt. Judah in California is, but I know there must be more. Anyway, thanks for your help.
russianrail
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Try this link for the tunnels Denver to Winter Park: http://railpassengerusa.com/travelogues/TL002_The%20Tunnel_District_Summer_2008-July.pdf. It includes lots of pictures along with the maps.
Steve P.
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Wow! That really helps alot. Thanks so much!
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Ben_G
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Now don't go and blow any of them up and get us in trouble.
Steve P.
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Hadn't even thought about it until you said something. Seriously I would never do anything like that.
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That's a nice resource. Do they do this for other routes?
I bought this book in Grand Junction, CO and I am glad I did. It has tunnel info, and the history many of the tunnels, among other things. They have books for many other routes. The author has 3 different books that cover the entire CZ route in segments.
"A Guidebook to Amtrak's California Zephyr - Denver to Salt Lake City" Eva J. Hoffman, Flashing Yellow Guide Books.
I also see there are podcasts available online which I assume are like self guided museum tours.
"A Guidebook to Amtrak's California Zephyr - Denver to Salt Lake City" Eva J. Hoffman, Flashing Yellow Guide Books.
I also see there are podcasts available online which I assume are like self guided museum tours.
Steve P.
Train Attendant
Thanks alot. Sounds like a great reference.
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Swadian Hardcore
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I think the Route Guide tells about some or all tunnels.
Thanks. I'll be buying some of these.
Steve P.
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Me too!
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George Harris
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While it does not give you tunnels, it does give a general map with locations of high elevations: www.uprr.com/aboutup/maps/attachments/elevations.pdf
The high point on the entire route of the CZ is at teh Moffat Tunnel. From the map:
High Elev. - Moffat Tunnel
Keep going west and you will see that there are two other high points on the route, and that the lowest of the three is actuall the Sierra Nevada summit. It is:
As an aside, this map also shows the low point in the US railroad world, on the Sunset Route alsong side the Salton Sea:
The high point on the entire route of the CZ is at teh Moffat Tunnel. From the map:
High Elev. - Moffat Tunnel
Milepost zero for this section is Denver. "Moffat Tunnel" is the subdivision, not the location name, although Winter Park is at the Moffat Tunnel portal.
Keep going west and you will see that there are two other high points on the route, and that the lowest of the three is actuall the Sierra Nevada summit. It is:
Milepost zero for this subdivision is Oakland CA. Roseville to Norden is one of the longest unbroken changes in elevation in the railroad world.
As an aside, this map also shows the low point in the US railroad world, on the Sunset Route alsong side the Salton Sea:
Milepost zero San Francisco, 3rd and Townsend.
I discovered these recently and purchased several for California, Arizona/New Mexico, and Texas for an upcoming trip on the Sunset Limited/Texas Eagle.
Me three! :lol: I bought the Washington/ North Idaho version just this morning.
Actually, per John Signor, only the Coast Division had MP 0.0 at Third & Townsend. For all other lines, MP 0.0 was the hinge on the ramp at the Ferry Building. Also, mileage to Yuma ran via the Valley line, not the Coast. Don't know whether or how much UP has changed that.
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